Edited Apr. 4, 2022 at 5:41 p.m.
Quoting: LindyRuffRider
Strome is not a way way better player lmao. Jesus. Obviously don't watch Mitts play. Strome is a big slow soft playmaker that is terrible defensively. Not the skillset I want in our top 6. The guy has the talent of a 3C, but needs to be given a top line role to produce. You can't put him in a 3rd/4th line role either because he stinks defensively. That's not winning hockey. Put Pat Kane or DeBrincat on Mitts wing and he'd probably put up the same numbers. Talk about easy mode. Mitts shows way more effort on the ice than Strome too. It is funny how Hawks fans wanted him gone like 2 months ago for scraps. Now one hot stretch (playing with Kane + DeBrincat) and he's amazing.
I would take Mitts at 2.5Mx2 over Strome at 5x5M anyday of the week. I like Mitts skillset more.
You clearly aren't watching Strome and haven't seen how his numbers have fluctuated widely based on various roles he's been put in. Anytime Strome has been put into a 3C, 4C or winger position his production has fallen dramatically and we've seen this over and over again over the last 3 years. Everytime he's a top 6C as a role player with Kane or Cat or both, he's been a damn good role player. Not every top 6 position need to be driving lines, you need guys that can play with people like Kane, Cat, Matthews, Mcdavid, etc. and get those most out of those guys; Strome is extremely good at that! Put this another way, Kane has had 14 centers in his career with a minimum of at least 20 games and Strome is #2 production wise in both comparable centers in that role but also reflected in Kane's numbers...I think that pretty much proves role players are important to elite level players and not all role players are created equally. Every analytic support this. Since early January when promoted to the top 6, Strome is over a ppg.
XG for Kane and Cat without Strome is 42%, with Strome is 53%, no other center has had that much impact on those players. What's more shocking is xGA since Strome has joined them is also down for Cat and Kane. Even more shocking then that, Strome is statistically higher then Kane in creating high danger chances since early January. There is a reason why Kane has been vocal about wanting to play with strome more so then any other center he's played with in his career.
That said, Strome, albeit still not good defensively, is a lot better then he was at the start of the year or historically actually playing 200ft of ice now at the risk of being benched if he doesn't. However, there is no argument that Mittlestadt is definitely better here.
That all said, it's foolish to think Mittlestadt can be inserted with Cat and Kane and put up over a ppg. Mittlestadt might be better defensively, but while not terrible offensively, he definitely doesn't have the vision, hands, shot, faceoffs, or passing skills of Strome...I can't even entertain an argument that suggests he does. Even when strome was playing in the bottom 6 with no namers on the Hawks he has outproduced Mittlestadt offensively. Mittelstadt is an okay 3C, he's like Pius Suter...very similar type of player...fun to watch no doubt, but Strome is simply a better and excellent top 6 role player who's offensive skills outweigh his defensive short comings. Mittelstadt (or Suter) don't have the offensive skills Strome has to be a top 6 to get the most out of star players.
For the record, and you can look at my history on here, I've been advocating since last season that either the Hawks put strome in the top 6 or trade him as I know what he is and isn't. I would take Strome at $4M x 2 over Mittlestadt at $2.5mx2 any day of the week...he's a much more impactful player then Mittlestadt is in any role and clearly has proven that in various roles. That said, Cozens in the top 6 with Mittlestadt at the 3C is a better strategy for Buffalo if Cozens is ready then to acquire strome.