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Created by: yanp007
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 6, 2022
Published: May 6, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$850,000
3$2,250,000
2$975,000
3$3,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Wright, Shane
3$950,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2024 7th round pick (BOS)
ARI
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Clague, Kale [RFA Rights]
  3. Weber, Shea
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
Weber's contract value is around a 4 round pick, Armia's negative value is around a 2nd round pick.
2.
EDM
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. 2024 7th round pick (EDM)
3.
MTL
  1. Dellandrea, Ty
  2. Faksa, Radek
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Petry, Jeff
  2. Schueneman, Corey [RFA Rights]
  3. 2022 4th round pick (TBL)
4.
MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
TDL 23, if and only if Drouin is healthy with a good season
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
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Logo of the CAR
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the NYR
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the STL
2023
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the COL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the DAL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2024
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Logo of the COL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the BOS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$60,519,165$1,132,500$2,610,000$21,980,835
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Wright, Shane
$950,000$950,000
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$825,000$825,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$850,000$850,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3

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May 6, 2022 at 9:11 a.m.
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Webers contract has no value lmao. They can just go sign someone for 10 mil if they wanted to. He has no value bro why do habs fans do this
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May 6, 2022 at 9:18 a.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
Webers contract has no value lmao. They can just go sign someone for 10 mil if they wanted to. He has no value bro why do habs fans do this


it's valuable for Arizona to reach the floor cap
May 6, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.
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it's valuable for Arizona to reach the floor cap


no it isnt bro. they can go sign someone without giving up the pick.
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May 6, 2022 at 9:21 a.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
Webers contract has no value lmao. They can just go sign someone for 10 mil if they wanted to. He has no value bro why do habs fans do this


Agreed. Maybe in two years time MTL can replicate the Little deal (LTIR $5.291 x 2yr) where ARI got a middle six prospect ready to play in exchange, but now Weber's contract will be tough to move. If Price ends up "LTIRetire" then they would still be deep in LTIR.
May 6, 2022 at 9:22 a.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
no it isnt bro. they can go sign someone without giving up the pick.


In theory yes but Weber's contract "value" come from his small actual salary. His cap hit is $8M but his actual cost is only $1M after 2023 which is ideal for ARI.

That being said, there's no way ARI would spend assets for him. They could do a Little-esque trade with MTL though.
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May 6, 2022 at 10:00 a.m.
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Edited May 6, 2022 at 10:17 a.m.
Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
no it isnt bro. they can go sign someone without giving up the pick.


That makes no sense. If someone gives you something worth 8$ and it cost $1 how is that the same as getting something worth $8 and spending $8? Do you understand math? lol

Weber deal to arizona is already done, wouldve happened at the deadline except there was some payment/insurance issues that took more time to work out. A 7th is hardly giving up assets and wte is sent back to MTL will basically be a formality but there will be something sent back.
May 6, 2022 at 10:18 a.m.
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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
That makes no sense. If someone gives you something worth 8$ and it cost $1 how is that the same as getting something worth $8 and spending $8? Do you understand math? lol

Weber deal to arizona is already done, wouldve happened at the deadline except there was some payment/insurance issues that took more time to work out. A 7th is hardly giving up assets and wte is sent back to MTL will basically be a formality but there will be something sent back.


because I would rather keep my 3rd round pick or whatever it takes to get weber lol
May 6, 2022 at 10:24 a.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
because I would rather keep my 3rd round pick or whatever it takes to get weber lol


what? the arizona is sending back a 7th not 3rd. And again its moot since by all reports Weber's contract is going to be moved it just required more time because of sort of the specifics.
May 6, 2022 at 10:27 a.m.
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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
what? the arizona is sending back a 7th not 3rd. And again its moot since by all reports Weber's contract is going to be moved it just required more time because of sort of the specifics.


dumping armia plays a factor
May 6, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
dumping armia plays a factor


ya hence the 3rd and Clague rights lol
May 6, 2022 at 10:34 a.m.
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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
ya hence the 3rd and Clague rights lol


Clague sucks and a 3rd is pretty ok? this is a mix of this agm and others for weber lmao
May 6, 2022 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
Clague sucks and a 3rd is pretty ok? this is a mix of this agm and others for weber lmao


Clauge is what he is, a 6/7 dman, Arizona isnt planning on winning anytime soon so he should fit right in. 3rd is solid return to take on Armia he is about a 1 1.5mil overpaid, its not like hes carrying an 8 mil cap hit. and again Weber contract isnt like any in the nhl because it was heavily frontloaded and was signed before the cba was ratified to stop teams from circumventing the cap in the way Nashville was able too.
May 6, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.
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Easy pass on Hoffman. Less than zero interest in Hoffman and the only reasons to move Barrie are for cap reasons and to get a better fit on the right side (which requires the cap savings).
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May 6, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
no it isnt bro. they can go sign someone without giving up the pick.


Don't think so. There is no one else with a 8M cap hit with a 1M in real salary anywhere else. AZ will play in a college arena next year, the money income will be low. I expect AZ to pay a B prospect OR a 2nd/3rd round pick for Weber's contract
May 6, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
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Don't think so. There is no one else with a 8M cap hit with a 1M in real salary anywhere else. AZ will play in a college arena next year, the money income will be low. I expect AZ to pay a B prospect OR a 2nd/3rd round pick for Weber's contract


thats ridiculous
May 6, 2022 at 1:37 p.m.
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thats ridiculous


Why?? Weber's contract is almost 8M on cap, In real money it's 6M for 3 years, 2M/year and probably 0 M because insurance. The Arizona budget will be very low with a 5000 arena. They will try to get high cap players and low money remains, exactly Weber contract. I saw another Weber trade from a TML fan, Weber vs Pierre Engvall rights, That's close of a 4th round pick and it's a TML fan!! https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3230432
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May 6, 2022 at 1:42 p.m.
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Why?? Weber's contract is almost 8M on cap, In real money it's 6M for 3 years, 2M/year and probably 0 M because insurance. The Arizona budget will be very low with a 5000 arena. They will try to get high cap players and low money remains, exactly Weber contract. I saw another Weber trade from a TML fan, Weber vs Pierre Engvall rights, That's close of a 4th round pick and it's a TML fan!! https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3230432


bro weber does not have positive value. arizona is poor but they also gotta spend money. they would rather use money on someone who will make them money through ticket sales or something.
May 6, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.
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COL has said that not parting with their 23 1st is important. Why in the world would they move it for Drouin no matter the cap hit?
May 6, 2022 at 2:05 p.m.
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Drouin to Colorado posts have been on here for ages. The answer is always no. For a 1st round pick? You must be on something good.
May 6, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.
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COL has said that not parting with their 23 1st is important. Why in the world would they move it for Drouin no matter the cap hit?


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Drouin to Colorado posts have been on here for ages. The answer is always no. For a 1st round pick? You must be on something good.


Read the details in the trade...
May 6, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.
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Read the details in the trade...


I did. Still bad. Unless he suddenly becomes a point per game winger and has a healthy season, you’re not getting a premium pick like a 2023 1st.
May 6, 2022 at 4:47 p.m.
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The ONLY reason for Edmonton to move their perennial 50 point RHD is for cap space. They have zero interest in Hoffman, who has the same cap hit but is half the player.
May 6, 2022 at 4:48 p.m.
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Read the details in the trade...


Read what I said. “No matter the cap hit”. Drouin could score 30 goals by the dead line and they aren’t parting with their 23 1st, in particular for a rental.
May 6, 2022 at 8:21 p.m.
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LMAO in no scenario will Drouin ever net a 1st.
Nor is he a player of interest for COL, don’t need anymore bottom 6F
 
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