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4 Pastrnak Trades

Created by: BigHeadHockey
Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 10, 2022
Published: Jun. 10, 2022
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Which of these trades has the worst value? We tried to value Pastrnak pretty highly also

ALL TRADES ASSUME GOOD EXTENSIONS FOR ALL PLAYERS (Tkachuk, Miller as well)
Trades
1.
2.
BOS
  1. Höglander, Nils
  2. Miller, J.T. ($2,625,000 retained)
  3. Rathbone, Jack [RFA Rights]
  4. 2022 1st round pick (VAN)
VAN
    Pastrnak
    3.
    BOS
    1. Mukhamadullin, Shakir
    2. 2022 1st round pick (NJD)
    3. 2023 1st round pick (NJD)
    NJD
      Pastrnak
      4.
      BOS
      1. Byfield, Quinton
      2. Madden, Tyler
      3. 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
      4. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
      LAK
        Pastrnak
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2022
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        2023
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        2024
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        26$82,500,000$79,680,001$0$3,500,000$2,819,999
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        $6,125,000$6,125,000
        LW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 3
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        $5,250,000$5,250,000
        C, RW
        M-NTC, NMC
        UFA - 4
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        $6,000,000$6,000,000
        LW
        M-NTC, NMC
        UFA - 3
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        $2,375,000$2,375,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 1
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        $3,100,000$3,100,000
        RW
        UFA - 1
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        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 2
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        $1,750,000$1,750,000
        LW, C
        UFA - 1
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        $1,350,000$1,350,000
        RW, C
        UFA - 1
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        $3,800,000$3,800,000
        LW, C, RW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 1
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        $1,050,000$1,050,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 1
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        $891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
        LW, RW
        RFA - 1
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        $800,000$800,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 2
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        $2,625,000$2,625,000
        C, LW, RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
        $925,000$925,000
        C
        RFA - 1
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        $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
        LW, C
        RFA - 2
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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        $6,500,000$6,500,000
        LD
        NTC, NMC
        UFA - 8
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        $9,500,000$9,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 8
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        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        G
        NMC
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $3,687,500$3,687,500
        LD
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $4,100,000$4,100,000
        RD
        UFA - 5
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
        G
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $3,000,000$3,000,000
        LD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $3,000,000$3,000,000
        LD
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $1,137,500$1,137,500
        LD/RD
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $1,000,000$1,000,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New Jersey Devils
        $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
        LD
        RFA - 3

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        Jun. 10, 2022 at 4:32 a.m.
        #1
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        Calgary trade is pretty fair but B's can't afford tkachuck most likely.

        Van trade is a no go a mix of futures and miller doesn't make sense either commit to full rebuild or don't. I also think miller is severely overrated and do not want him being the number 1 piece in a pasta deal. rathbone also is becoming the LHD equivalence of studnicka so not much value there.
        I'd consider a deal of like 15OA+Hoglander+Podkolzin+ 23 1st top 3 protected and we take on myers contract full price for them.

        Devils deal is nice but i'd prefer holtz or mercer+ 23 3rd instead of Mukhamadullin and 23 1st

        LA deal is also very nice but im not sure if they would give up back to back firsts maybe a deal like Byfield+19OA+ Durzi or Vilardi+ would make more sense to them
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        Jun. 10, 2022 at 4:35 a.m.
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        You'll need Pasta to agree to an extension as well with any of the new teams and that could cause problems, especially with Canadian teams.
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        Jun. 10, 2022 at 4:41 a.m.
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        No way teams give up this much for 1 season of pasta. You’re asking for the equivalent of 3 1st rounders+ when he has just a year left. He would be the one who has to agree to an extension.
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        Jun. 10, 2022 at 4:49 a.m.
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        Canucks pass, Pasta doesn't make sense for us
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        Jun. 10, 2022 at 4:52 a.m.
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        Quoting: Byrr
        You'll need Pasta to agree to an extension as well with any of the new teams and that could cause problems, especially with Canadian teams.


        all trades assume there is a reasonable extension in place
        Jun. 10, 2022 at 4:52 a.m.
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        Quoting: glarson17
        No way teams give up this much for 1 season of pasta. You’re asking for the equivalent of 3 1st rounders+ when he has just a year left. He would be the one who has to agree to an extension.


        all trades assume there is a reasonable extension in place
        Jun. 10, 2022 at 5:05 a.m.
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        Flames trade makes no sense for either team. Skill wise its a complete wash and neither player will want to go through a rebuild with Boston long term.
        Jun. 10, 2022 at 5:06 a.m.
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        Quoting: BigHeadHockey
        all trades assume there is a reasonable extension in place


        Sign and trades are not a thing in the NHL, very rarely do teams get more value due to the acquiring team extending them
        Jun. 10, 2022 at 5:33 a.m.
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        Trade is terrible for Vancouver. Pastrnak isn’t that much of an improvement on Miller. Makes no sense for Van
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        Jun. 10, 2022 at 5:43 a.m.
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        Quoting: BigHeadHockey
        all trades assume there is a reasonable extension in place


        Except that’s NOT a reasonable assumption to make
        Jun. 10, 2022 at 5:48 a.m.
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        Doesn't make sense for Van unless Pastrnak signs for a lot less than Miller would sign. Either way JT Miller, Hog and the 1st is a lot more valuable than Pastrnak in my opinion.
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        Jun. 10, 2022 at 6:07 a.m.
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        If Pastrnak was on a 4 mill cap hit for the next 8 years going into this deal, every team would accept. The problem is he isn't, and he also is not going to re sign for cheap either I would suspect. In reality, instead of a value of three first rounders, he probably goes for something like a 1st, a good prospect, a 4th line roster player, and maybe a low level prospect, from a contending team. For van that would probably be 2022 1st, podkolzin, dickinson and a random prospect, if he is re-signed, but since he is a pending UFA and van isn't contending, his value is close to nothing for them.
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        Jun. 10, 2022 at 10:00 a.m.
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        Sweeney has expressed interest in resigning, JP Barry said they will meet with Sweeney early July to talk extension. Im not saying 88 wont get traded, but their negotiation period i believe opens up after the draft, so unless 88 explicitly expresses he wont resign no matter of the number i think the 2022 draft picks would be off the table.
        Jun. 10, 2022 at 10:59 a.m.
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        Quoting: Dekes
        Calgary trade is pretty fair but B's can't afford tkachuck most likely.

        Van trade is a no go a mix of futures and miller doesn't make sense either commit to full rebuild or don't. I also think miller is severely overrated and do not want him being the number 1 piece in a pasta deal. rathbone also is becoming the LHD equivalence of studnicka so not much value there.
        I'd consider a deal of like 15OA+Hoglander+Podkolzin+ 23 1st top 3 protected and we take on myers contract full price for them.

        Devils deal is nice but i'd prefer holtz or mercer+ 23 3rd instead of Mukhamadullin and 23 1st

        LA deal is also very nice but im not sure if they would give up back to back firsts maybe a deal like Byfield+19OA+ Durzi or Vilardi+ would make more sense to them


        You’d want the Canucks to give up 4 1sts worth of value plus a 2nd pair RHD? That’s an insane as, even with an extension
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        Jun. 10, 2022 at 6:53 p.m.
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        Quoting: Juiceman
        Trade is terrible for Vancouver. Pastrnak isn’t that much of an improvement on Miller. Makes no sense for Van


        you dramatically overrate miller lol, guy has 1 90 point season and he becomes some top 15 player in the league get out of here. Pastrnak has been a top 10 winger for the last 5 years, miller is barely a top 10 LW and he isn't even in the top 15 for centers. Miller will not perform like he did this year again, guy scored 40% of his points from PP anyways
        Jun. 10, 2022 at 6:56 p.m.
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        Quoting: mv21227
        You’d want the Canucks to give up 4 1sts worth of value plus a 2nd pair RHD? That’s an insane as, even with an extension


        maybe not 2 1sts but definitely hoglander 15OA and Podkolzin. Plus you will have to pay to move myers full price, myers is also not a top 4 dman on a competitive PO team he at best should be your 5th dman, ain't no one taking a 5th dman at 6mill for free. I hear a lot of canucks fans say he looked good this year no he looked average it's just canucks have a bunch of pylons on their defence outside of Hughes who is just slightly above average defensively now
        Jun. 10, 2022 at 7:07 p.m.
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        Quoting: Dekes
        maybe not 2 1sts but definitely hoglander 15OA and Podkolzin. Plus you will have to pay to move myers full price, myers is also not a top 4 dman on a competitive PO team he at best should be your 5th dman, ain't no one taking a 5th dman at 6mill for free. I hear a lot of canucks fans say he looked good this year no he looked average it's just canucks have a bunch of pylons on their defence outside of Hughes who is just slightly above average defensively now


        Podkolzin should be a non starter for the Canucks. Pastrnak doesn’t really make sense for us, but if he were willing to sign an extension I’d be willing to trade for him. Would probably have to trade Miller to a separate team first and use some of the assets there as I’m sure Boston would want futures. But 15 OA and Hoglander could be two pieces involved, but whoever headlines a Miller trade would probably be involved

        As for Myers, sure he’s overpaid, but he was still pretty solid on the second pair last year. It doesn’t make sense for the Canucks to trade assets to move his contract. Would rather retain 1-1.5M and get a mid round pick. And also despite his horrible contract OEL was actually quite good as well last year, but you’re right our dcore is pretty terrible
        Jun. 10, 2022 at 7:18 p.m.
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        Quoting: mv21227
        Podkolzin should be a non starter for the Canucks. Pastrnak doesn’t really make sense for us, but if he were willing to sign an extension I’d be willing to trade for him. Would probably have to trade Miller to a separate team first and use some of the assets there as I’m sure Boston would want futures. But 15 OA and Hoglander could be two pieces involved, but whoever headlines a Miller trade would probably be involved

        As for Myers, sure he’s overpaid, but he was still pretty solid on the second pair last year. It doesn’t make sense for the Canucks to trade assets to move his contract. Would rather retain 1-1.5M and get a mid round pick. And also despite his horrible contract OEL was actually quite good as well last year, but you’re right our dcore is pretty terrible


        here is something that could work so lets say miller is moved no retention that helps canucks cap problem so they don't need to move myers for assets. If Podkolzin is unavailable then would maybe something along the lines of
        Hoglander+ 15OA+ Garland+ either Rathbone or Mcdonaugh/Klimovich+ 23 2nd? I think i value garland slightly more then miller just due to his contract and his age fitting more into B's timeline of competing 4-5yrs from now if they go full rebuild/retool these next 2 years.
        Jun. 10, 2022 at 7:33 p.m.
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        Quoting: Dekes
        you dramatically overrate miller lol, guy has 1 90 point season and he becomes some top 15 player in the league get out of here. Pastrnak has been a top 10 winger for the last 5 years, miller is barely a top 10 LW and he isn't even in the top 15 for centers. Miller will not perform like he did this year again, guy scored 40% of his points from PP anyways


        The difference between the two is not Hoglander Rathbone and the 15Oa. Pasta is a rental. The chance of him signing in Vancouver is slim. This would be a terrible trade. Get a grip
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        Jun. 10, 2022 at 7:45 p.m.
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        As much as I would absolutely love Pasternak, I personally have two players that should not be traded and those two guys would be Byfield/Clarke. Kaliyev would be another guy only because I’d want the Pasternak kaliyev combo on the same line and for PP purposes.

        But it’s Pasternak, so there’s that
        Jun. 10, 2022 at 8:59 p.m.
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        Quoting: Dekes
        here is something that could work so lets say miller is moved no retention that helps canucks cap problem so they don't need to move myers for assets. If Podkolzin is unavailable then would maybe something along the lines of
        Hoglander+ 15OA+ Garland+ either Rathbone or Mcdonaugh/Klimovich+ 23 2nd? I think i value garland slightly more then miller just due to his contract and his age fitting more into B's timeline of competing 4-5yrs from now if they go full rebuild/retool these next 2 years.


        If the Canucks were to acquire Pastrnak I assume they’d be trying to contend, so not sure if they move Garland I feel like Garland + 15 OA + Hoglander should be enough value wise for Pasta with an extension, although there’s a chance I’m overvaluing the Canucks pieces/undervaluing Pasta.
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