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How much would Bertuzzi cost

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Team: 2022-23 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 11, 2022
Published: Jun. 12, 2022
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2$1,750,000
3$1,750,000
2$850,000
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4$3,250,000
2$1,750,000
2$750,000
2$850,000
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  1. 2024 7th round pick (CBJ)
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  1. Nemeth, Patrik
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NYR)
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  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [RFA Rights]
  2. Kakko, Kaapo [RFA Rights]
  3. Kravtsov, Vitali [RFA Rights]
  4. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
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NYR
  1. 2023 4th round pick (TOR)
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22$82,500,000$80,103,969$0$3,650,000$2,396,031
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
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UFA - 5
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
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UFA - 8
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW
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$11,642,857$11,642,857
LW
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UFA - 4
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 3
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 2
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$3,641,667$3,641,667
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 7
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$5,666,667$5,666,667
G
UFA - 3
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
G
UFA
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$900,000$900,000
LD
UFA - 1
$850,000$850,000
C, LW
UFA - 1

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Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:31 a.m.
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Columbus is not a cap dumping ground. Find another spot.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:34 a.m.
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You shouldn't risk acquiring Bertuzzi. There's always the possibility with COVID that he'll miss 50% of the games.
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:38 a.m.
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Nah.
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Columbus is not a cap dumping ground. Find another spot.


If packaged with a good pick or prospect, I think it should be. Jarmo’s been going on about “weaponizing the cap” for years now, with nothing to show for it.

That being said, I pass on this one. Not enough coming our way, and we have no need for Nemeth.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:41 a.m.
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More than you're willing to pay.

Your offer here isn't bad, but Detroit would need to be blown away by an offer to consider moving Bertuzzi and it would HAVE to be a package that includes a top 6 center.
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:45 a.m.
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Quoting: dopplsan
If packaged with a good pick or prospect, I think it should be. Jarmo’s been going on about “weaponizing the cap” for years now, with nothing to show for it.

That being said, I pass on this one. Not enough coming our way, and we have no need for Nemeth.


I think there are better ways to do that than just taking on dead weight players.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 9:20 a.m.
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If Bert were to be moved, it would need to include a center which is asking to much from the other team. So it would need to be a package deal and Wings are not in a position to trade multiple assets in this stage of rebuild.

Your offer is fair but not enticing. We have Ned so Georgiev is not needed as Ned is still young and Wings need experienced goalie, Kappo is similar to Zadina, waiting g to break out. Kravstov is not a Yzerman type player, see Drouin. Lastly the pick is a year away which only extends rebuild. I know Wings are not close to contending for cup but extending that time frame is not an option.
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 10:02 a.m.
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Bertuzzi as well as Yzerman has publically stated that he will be extended already this summer so him being traded is very unlikely. Bert scores very close to a point per game and plays both PP and PK and both wings equally well and Detroit would need to have that production replaced in any trade. With Bert also being very well liked by both fans and the management the return would have to spectacular for a trade to go through.

Ryan Strome (with an extension in place) + Kakko + Lundqvist + Cuylle is the type of overpayment that would be needed to pry Bert out of our hands.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 10:31 a.m.
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Bertuzzi as well as Yzerman has publically stated that he will be extended already this summer so him being traded is very unlikely. Bert scores very close to a point per game and plays both PP and PK and both wings equally well and Detroit would need to have that production replaced in any trade. With Bert also being very well liked by both fans and the management the return would have to spectacular for a trade to go through.

Ryan Strome (with an extension in place) + Kakko + Lundqvist + Cuylle is the type of overpayment that would be needed to pry Bert out of our hands.


Kakko has been less than impressive would switching him with Kravtsov be better because hasn't been given the same opportunity making him hungrier.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 11:30 a.m.
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Kakko has been less than impressive would switching him with Kravtsov be better because hasn't been given the same opportunity making him hungrier.


I am honestly not sure. They're both pretty similar, both are left shooting right wingers. Kaapo is a year younger which is to his advantage and I watched him pretty extensively during his draft year when he impressed a lot (7 points in 10 games in the World Championships - the big one, not Juniors) and he has improved this year with 18 points in 43 games compared with last year's 17 in 48.

Kravtsov is much more of an unknown to me and I haven't watched him play very much but in 20-21, when both were in Rangers, he scored only 4 points in 20 games when Kakko scored 17 points in 48. If you look at points per 60 Kakko was 1.20 and Kravtsov 1.00, Kakko was also driving the play a lot better and drew more penalties than he took wheras Kravtsov took more penalties than he drew. Kakko was also a + player unlike Kravtsov. Kakko was also a lot better defensively with three times as many takeaways as giveaways while Kravtsov had twice as many giveaways as takeaways.

If you weigh all that together and add that Kakko is a year younger and Kravtsov is the troublesome one then I'd have to stick with Kaapo as my choice. Going for both of them isn't an option, we don't have the rosters spots for that.
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 11:53 a.m.
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I am honestly not sure. They're both pretty similar, both are left shooting right wingers. Kaapo is a year younger which is to his advantage and I watched him pretty extensively during his draft year when he impressed a lot (7 points in 10 games in the World Championships - the big one, not Juniors) and he has improved this year with 18 points in 43 games compared with last year's 17 in 48.

Kravtsov is much more of an unknown to me and I haven't watched him play very much but in 20-21, when both were in Rangers, he scored only 4 points in 20 games when Kakko scored 17 points in 48. If you look at points per 60 Kakko was 1.20 and Kravtsov 1.00, Kakko was also driving the play a lot better and drew more penalties than he took wheras Kravtsov took more penalties than he drew. Kakko was also a + player unlike Kravtsov. Kakko was also a lot better defensively with three times as many takeaways as giveaways while Kravtsov had twice as many giveaways as takeaways.

If you weigh all that together and add that Kakko is a year younger and Kravtsov is the troublesome one then I'd have to stick with Kaapo as my choice. Going for both of them isn't an option, we don't have the rosters spots for that.


Cool you've clearly put more thought in to it than I have after reading your post I thought maybe it would be an advantage. Either works for me.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 12:15 p.m.
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Cool you've clearly put more thought in to it than I have after reading your post I thought maybe it would be an advantage. Either works for me.


I have a feeling that Kakko is underrated. He scores at the same rate as Fabbri (1.58/60 vs. 1.57/60) which would place him firmly in the 2RW spot with us and with him improving year on year he could be a staple there. Move Vrána up to 1LW and slide Suter to LW until Fabbri heals and we'd end up with;

Vrána -Larkin - Raymond
Suter - Strome . Kakko
Zadina - Veleno - Berggren
Rasmussen - Stephens - Sundqvist
Smith and Erne scratched.

I could live with that and Lundqvist and Cuylle will both become good assets for us and would be the payment for losing Bert. If we then draft Kemell or Lekkerimäki with #8, Raymond can move to the left side, he likes to play his off side (or Kakko if that works better).
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Jun. 13, 2022 at 9:03 a.m.
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You shouldn't risk acquiring Bertuzzi. There's always the possibility with COVID that he'll miss 50% of the games.


Maybe I'm wrong but don't the rangers only play 7 games in Canada a year? 1 away game against each Canadian team?
Jun. 13, 2022 at 9:26 a.m.
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Maybe I'm wrong but don't the rangers only play 7 games in Canada a year? 1 away game against each Canadian team?


The risk is in the playoffs when it matters most. Who knows where the world will be, but that's kinda the point. Maybe the probability is low, but you can't give fair asking price if the potential exists that when your needed most...you flake just because you're making poor life choices.
 
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