Quoting: Windjammer
Other than Scheifele's defensive problems being massively overplayed now, when he has shown in the past with good team defense systems he can be very good. It also isn't the past with his scoring, he's has 6 consecutive PPG seasons, including this one which was a very down year for him.
The difference began the Eichel situation and Scheifele's is, Scheifele isn't seriously injured, Scheifele isn't demanding a surgery that had never been done on a hockey player before, he hasn't said he'll never play for the team again, he hadn't demanded a trade and he has a much lower, better value contract.
So, Buffalo was forced into trading Eichel, while the Jets don't have the same pressure with Scheifele for another 2 years.
I agree with Kakko and Ves though. Kakko is a far bigger disappointment being a 2OA pick.
Sorry, there just isn't anything interesting in the offer above for the Jets at all.
Dude, you can't be serious. You're one of the most biased CapFriendly users I've ever encountered.
Scheifele's lack of defence isn't massively overdramatized. Everyone knows his offense output makes his defensive play inconsequential. On the other hand, it doesn't take away from the fact that he's the opposite of a two-way player, which is exactly what Zibanejad molded out into this season. I've seen Scheifele and Zibanejad's career statistics too. Six consecutive years of PPG is impressive, but is it really that much more significant than four straight seasons of 0.9 PPG? No, it's not -- just like how Zibanejad's best season being overwhelmingly better than Scheifele's best season is irrelevant. I want two way 0.9 PPG players over 1.0 PPG one way players.
You also need to calm down with the paranoia over Eichel's surgery. That had zero effect on his trade value with the fact that the acquiring team was already willing to green light his surgery. They didn't care, so it's time to forget considering it a liability. If the Jets shop Scheifele on the trade block and start a rebuild then it would be HELPFUL FOR WINNIPEG if he requested a trade for the benefit of both parties as opposed to threatening Winnipeg to become the next John Tavares. Eichel never said he'd never play again in Buffalo - that was a distorted media headline. He wanted out of Buffalo. Initiating a Winnipeg rebuild equals forcing Schiefele out of Winnipeg for the best of your team's future. You also conveniently ignored the facts that Eichel was only 25 at the time of his trade, meaning that he wasn't past his prime, and that he had guaranteed term. Everyone knows that's far more lucrative than a 29 year old with 2 seasons left. Obviously Scheifele's cap hit was far more valuable, but with the other factors I listed in favor of Eichel, they balance each other out.
Now here's the most ludicrous claim of yours that clearly shows you're not interested in taking negotiating seriously and are just here to try to piss me off. A first round draft pick with 5 points through 3 seasons at age 23 that has already been forced to exile himself to Sweden is a million times more disappointing and a million times bigger of a bust than a first round draft pick with 58 points through 3 seasons at age 21 that is lining up for a bigger role next season. Overall draft pick status is completely meaningless when you're comparing the careers of two players. A 7th rounder with 5 career points in the NHL through 3 seasons is a bust by definition.
If you're not interested in the assets in this trade, that's completely fine. After all, this is a trade that both teams would likely decline anyway. But OP isn't trying to troll. You are. You remind me exactly of delneggs.