Tht's what it'd take for us to move Laine but Carolina's not going to do it. (And how do you have Necas over Jarvis, anyways?)

And not interested in Petterson.

Where do I sign up for that Laine trade? Also Carolina probably doesn’t make it. Pittsburgh trade is kinda whatever to me, I could take it or leave it, he’d be a 3rd pair LHD for us.

Carolina doesn’t consider if Jarvis is involved. Necas, Morrow, and a 1st might work though.

It wouldn't. The Jackets don't consider if Jarvis isn't involved. It's a total impasse that's been known for quite a while now.

Lol... the team that "needs chychrun" and I was just blasted about the team needing defence, doesn't want a guy with way better defensive numbers than chychrun...

What if Columbus takes on gardiner a contract or adds a bit. To me it seems like a fair deal if you are in need of a goal scoring winger. Laine is one of the best in the business.

Why not? Petterson's defensive numbers are outstanding. Much better than chychrun's.

Also those two could be swapped. Necas is far better than he gets credit for. I was more or less balancing out the top 9.

Because Chychrun is a better defender. Advanced analytics do not do an effective job of measuring defensively-oriented defensemen because there's next to no useful correlating events to work with that successfully point to individual performances (all the relevant events are team-based), so they have to go by proxy several levels removed. It's got the same data fidelity as attempting to do scouting by way of "a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend told me".

My eyes tell me different. Not enough people watch Arizona games... pettersson won't offer you the smooth puck movement and finishing but that is why I paired him with boqvist. That would be a very effective pair in my opinion.

We need a guy who's capable on the right.

Then I suggest a Roy or Zub type. But with peke and boqvist I'm not sure you need much long term. Chychrun also isn't as effective on the right side. So I'm still not convinced paying a premium for him is the way to go.

Jarmo Kekalainen tells 971RandI that Patrik Laine’s contract negotiations are a “work in progress.” Doesn’t foresee the process heading into arbitration.

Says he “absolutely” expects a deal to get done.

I didn’t say they don’t make the trade, as I said I could take it or leave it. I’m also on the side of is Chychrun worth it to acquire if he doesn’t exactly fix the issue of needing a top 4 RHD who is more defensive minded.

Which is why I went after pettersson and moved been over on 3rd pair. I think Roy is a player that cbj should target if that's the case.

Lol, is he supposed to call out Laine? Or say he is bad at his job and the negotiations are in shambles?

I do think a deal can get done with Laine. But I don't think it will be the long term deal columbus needs from him. Which is why I moved him for two players with more team control.

Laine is one of the best, but Jarvis isn’t getting moved whatsoever. Halfway through his rookie year as a 19 year old, he works his way onto the top line. Not to mention that his defensive game is extremely mature for a 19 year old winger.

Necas is much better than people give credit for, is what you had said in a different post on here. Necas, a top prospect in a RHD in Morrow, 2023 first and a second, which is about the same as what Eichel got, should be a good enough package to get it done.

I'm not complaining about the value. Just the fit. Cbj really don't need a late 1st or Morrow. Let's not forget that Laine made it to the top line as an 18 year old with 36 goals. Put into a position where he is encouraged to play to his strengths I think he is an easy 50 goal scorer.

Yes Necas is a very good piece. Better than most give him value for. He's been a bit up and down but I think he has the tools.

I think the discussion would be what gets Jarvis and Necas. If jarmo doesn't like the answer he hangs up and calls jersey and Dallas.

I think it's the wrong defenseman to target from the Penguins. The Jackets should target Marino instead.

That isn't a bad idea either. May cost a bit more. But nothing like chychrun. So many options. I just see chycrun as a target for a team that thinks they have a 4 year window and don't care about the future past that.

I think Chychrun is a better player, but Marino is a much better fit with Werenski in the top pairing.

Value seems fair but I just can’t see canes moving Jarvis all things considered, not for Laine at least. Short list of players I think they’d move him for and none of those guys get moved for him by the other side.

Canes and Laine aren’t a fit. Canes won’t move much for a rental and don’t give big deals to guys who haven’t played here.

Laine would be an 8 year sign and trade imo. Or a negotiated deal. I think Laine wants to go to a contender and get some freedom to be that goal scorer. I think canes will give him just that.

No way canes give up anything close to that for a rental on Laine.

Seeing how we do business, I don’t see us giving a 64+ million dollar deal to a guy who hasn’t played here before and has defensive issues already.

Either of those guys (Roy or Zub) would be wonderful, but they're not available.