I don’t think either team does this tbh. Canucks aren’t trading Hughes, Detroit isn’t at the stage where they should be trading 1sts

A blockbuster that the Wings pass.

1st, Myers is a bad contract

2nd Wings not trading 2 1st and a good defenseman

3rd Wings will be pushed up against the cap with Larkin aand Bertuzzi to resign next year.

I’d probably like this trade if Myers wasn’t attached to it. I’d rather give up that kind of package for Ekblad or Seth Jones for potentially less.

Myers isn't a negative asset

Hughes is worth way more than what Detroit is giving up there

If they didn't have Edvinsson, I'd say Detroit takes this and runs

At 6 million over two years he is a negative asset

Idk about “way” more but, I could see a package being marginally bigger in a deal for him. I think you have to take into account it’d probably take a 1st round pick just to move Myers’ deal so it’s essentially three (3) first round picks & a good young defenseman for Quinn.

I wouldn't be surprised if Detroit made the playoffs this year. They have a good team now and I think are being a bit underrated since their past seasons were not great. They have a very deep prospect pool too. IMO they can afford to move those firsts, especially to bring in Hughes.

No he isn't. That's the most delusional take I've heard in a long time, either that or you're just trying to be spiteful, cause you obviously haven't watched Myers play in a long-time, or you just haven't watched his game closely enough

The only return packages that I see Hughes fetching from Detroit is either Edvinsson +, or Seider

Detroit definitely improved their team, but I would still peg them a long shot to make the playoffs, their team isn't underrated as it's currently constructed. They still need more of their prospects to work their way up before they can comfortably call themselves perennial playoff contenders

I believe at this point Moritz Seider has more value than Quinn Hughes. So neither of them will be traded for eachother.

Edvinsson I could see being involved in a package for Hughes but probably a pointless trade considering Simon’s ceiling is potentially enormous. I wouldn’t trade either one of them and Vancouver is not trading Hughes anyways.

Theres zero chance Myers would need a 1st rounder to move him. Its not 3 first round picks. Its hronek, 2 firsts, and a 2nd for hughes who is worth 3 firsts and Myers who is the replacement for Hronek and can play the 2nd pairing fairly well. At worst Myers is given away for future considerations if there is not retention. With retention we could get a 3rd, maybe a 2nd depending on how much retention

Canucks give up the two best players In the trade including the best defenseman in franchise history and all they get is 2 firsts eh?

Aight

LOL, how the hell does Seider have more value than Hughes???

Hronek is decent no? I think he is probably worth his cap hit and he is young. I think Hronek has more value than Myers by a good amount cause his age and cap hit, that's why its not a massive return with Hughes involved, cause we trade a guy that won't be much in a few years for a guy that could be a RHD for the next 10 years.

I think they are pretty equal in value. Hughes is definitely the more offensively gifted and is a master at evading other players while Seider is pretty good offensively, but can also play a shut down role. Hughes has gotten loads better at defense since he came in but I think Seider has more potential on the defensive side of things and he has the size to go up against any player in the league.

Hronek's value isn't that much higher than Myers. Hronek has his fair share of warts to his game similar to Myers, only meaningful difference between the two is age

Nobody is denying that Seider's defensive game has a higher ceiling than Hughes, largely due to the size difference, but I don't see Seider ever reaching the same heights offensively as Hughes will, plus Hughes is quite a bit more mobile than Seider

Hronek is at best the same as Myers in terms of on ice value

I think it’s kind of an easy one tbh. Hughes will probably never win a Norris trophy. Seider will probably win at least one, if not multiple. I’m not denying Hughes game or his value, I personally just don’t see many defensemen outside of Cale Makar with more value than Seider. You couldn’t come up with a package big enough to pry Seider away from the wings but, Hughes IMO could be had.

How is Seider gonna win a Norris trophy as long as Cale Makar and Adam Fox are around? What the hell makes you think Hughes is even remotely touchable??? You aren't backing up your logic with anything

This isn't a trade Detroit should be doing and if Vancouver was going to trade their best defenseman they would likely want to get higher end pieces back in return in positions of need.

There isn’t a logic behind predicting a Norris trophy or someone who isn’t on the trade block or the player having any reason to be traded.

Seider just seems to have a higher ceiling than what I’ve seen from Quinn and it’s really like splitting hairs. Hughes is special and Seider is too. I think Moritz Seider is heading into the category of Norris trophy contender on a perennial basis and while nobody is Cale Makar; Hughes just doesn’t bring what those other guys bring to the game in terms of a balanced elite game.

Seider has some room to grow offensively but that will come with a better supporting cast and defensive pairing. Kid was 20 years old last year and played like a 30 year old established all star. There is something to be said about that.

And for the record I don’t believe Hughes will be traded, I just think if one of him or Seider were traded; it’d be Hughes. Vancouver is a mess and have had issues with odd trades, stressful negotiations on extensions and the team hasn’t found the success they were trying to force into fruition. I think those elements can lead to some uncomfortable decisions on personnel.