PRICE TO RETIRE AT END OF SEASON TRADE FOR DUBOIS PLUS HOFFMAN TO ANAHEIM

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Created by: nilees24

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 30, 2022

Published: Jul. 31, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

** Tank for Connor Bedard
*** Keep Slafkovsky in Laval until after the Trade Deadline
****Price a candidate to start season but likely LTIR and retirement at end of 2022/23 season.

Trade candidates (2022/23 Trade Deadline):
Jonathan Drouin (1 yr left in contract)
Evgeny Dadonov (1 yr left in contract)
Paul Byron (1 yr left in contract)
Jake Allen (1 yr left in contract)

Team Roster (End of 2022/23 season):
Slafkovsky - Suzuki 'A' - Caufield
Ylönen - Dubois - Anderson
Armia - Dach - Gallagher 'A'
Pitlick - Evans - Pezzetta
(Harvey-Pinard) (Groulx)

Guhle - Matheson
Edmundson 'C' - Barron
Harris - Savard
(Wideman)

Montembeault - Primeau
*Price retires*

Trade candidates (2023/24 Off-Season):
Joel Armia (2 yrs remaining)
Carey Price's contract (3 yrs remaining)

Likely additions in 2023/24 free agency:
Jonathan Huberdeau (7 yr - 9.5/mil yr)
Alex Nedeljkovic (2 yr - 3.5/mill yr)

Team Roster (Start of 2023/24 season):
Slafkovsky - Suzuki 'A' - Caufield
Huberdeau - Dubois - Anderson
Ylönen - Dach - Gallagher 'A'
Pitlick - Evans - Pezzetta
(Harvey-Pinard) (Mesar)

Guhle - Matheson
Edmundson 'C' - Barron
Harris - Savard
(Wideman)

Nedeljkovic - Montembeault
(Primeau)

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Mailloux, Logan		3	$880,833
Stapley, Brett		1	$825,000

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Dach, Kirby		1	$3,000,000
Primeau, Cayden		1	$850,000

Trades

MTL

Dubois, Pierre-Luc

WPG

Dvorak, Christian
Farrell, Sean [Reserve List]
2023 1st round pick (FLA)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$76,970,832	$1,132,500	$1,990,000	$5,529,168

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 8	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1
Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $6,000,000$6,000,000 C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Dach, Kirby $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW RFA - 4	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 3	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Pezzetta, Michael $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Ylönen, Jesse $880,833$880,833 RW, LW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 3	Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) RD RFA - 2	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 1
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 3
Harris, Jordan $842,500$842,500 ($507,500$508K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2

Jul. 31, 2022 at 12:40 p.m.

Not_Isles5513

1GarthSnowFan

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Anaheim and Winnipeg decline. Hoffman is a cap dump and Dubois is worth more. It’s also worth mentioning he downplayed his agents comments about Montreal.

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Jul. 31, 2022 at 12:42 p.m.

Windjammer

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The Jets have absolutely no reason to give Dubois away for such a poor return. You'd need to add an unprotected 1st to Hoffman to return that much.

Jul. 31, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.

Salzy

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Add in an unprotected 1st in 2023 or leave us alone

Jul. 31, 2022 at 12:55 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Both trades are so blatantly biased towards MTL.

Jul. 31, 2022 at 1:15 p.m.

Nake_qc

Joined: Jun. 2018

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Quoting: Windjammer

The Jets have absolutely no reason to give Dubois away for such a poor return. You'd need to add an unprotected 1st to Hoffman to return that much.

What do you think PLD will fetch?

Jul. 31, 2022 at 1:59 p.m.

Lancebmx

Joined: Oct. 2020

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Quoting: Nake_qc

What do you think PLD will fetch?

If he does get traded it will likely be a first, good - top prospect and a decent roster player. I don't think Farrell is that prospect they want. Might need a bit more, not totally sure.

Jul. 31, 2022 at 2:03 p.m.

evelutions2

Lets Get Kraken

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Might want to stop playing NHL 22 for a while. Most of the NHL GM’s aren’t as stupid as the AI in NHL 22.

Jul. 31, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.

Windjammer

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Quoting: Nake_qc

What do you think PLD will fetch?

At the TDL in 2 years he would get a 1st and good prospect, so for the extra two years or would be mire than that.

The problem with this offer is Farrell as a LW prospect, holds little to no value to Winnipeg.

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Jul. 31, 2022 at 2:42 p.m.

Fox_Czar_Cup

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Edited Jul. 31, 2022 at 9:57 p.m.

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Jul. 31, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.

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Nake_qc

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Quoting: Windjammer

So this deal is at least getting the gm's talking.

Jul. 31, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.

#11

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

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Quoting: Windjammer

What people don't realize, is that Dvorak could end up being as good or better than Dubois.
Dubois only has 50 more points while playing 3 more games than Dvorak in his career. That's negligible considering the difference in deployment.
They are very comparable players in terms of impact while playing different roles. Any additional pieces in a trade are simply to bridge any gap in perceived value.

If you don't want Dvorak and would prefer a more pick/prospect heavy package, that's fine, but if Dvorak is included, a 1st and middling prospect is at least sufficient to cover a difference which may not even exist. Dvorak could have easily put up 60 points in Dubois' role this season while winning more faceoffs and taking less penalties. The difference between them isn't a top prospect and an unprotected 1st.

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Jul. 31, 2022 at 3:54 p.m.

#12

Windjammer

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Quoting: ricochetii

Yeah, zero chance Dvorak ends up being as good or better than Dubois. At 26, Dvorak is what he is. A marginal 3C that misses a lot of time and doesn't put up much in points. There is a massive chasm between 3 years of Dvorak and 2 years of Dubois.

2 years of Dubois>>>>> 3 years of Dvorak.

Jul. 31, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.

#13

Windjammer

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Quoting: Nake_qc

So this deal is at least getting the gm's talking.

I don't think so. 2 years of Dubois is worth way more than 3 of Dvorak. I think the Jets would leanto a first and better prospect package over this type of deal.

Jul. 31, 2022 at 4:50 p.m.

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ricochetii

Go Habs Go

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Quoting: Windjammer

Again, he's only 50 points behind Dubois in the same number of games, in a less offensive role.
Dubois has more room for development, thus the difference in value.
I'm not saying a 1-for-1 swap makes sense, only that the difference isn't two highest end pieces.

Jul. 31, 2022 at 7:24 p.m.

#15

thewookie1

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Quoting: ricochetii

50 pts isn’t exactly a small number. I’d be more willing to agree if it were 20 pts but 50 is completely in a different realm.

Price isn’t retiring; he might LTIRetire but he isn’t walking away from 30+ million to do the Habs a favor

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Jul. 31, 2022 at 9:29 p.m.

#16

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

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Quoting: thewookie1

Not when you consider a 20% swing in offensive zone starts.
Agree on Price. Best chance for him to get a cup is to agree to termination and lose all that money. Not likely.

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