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Toronto I need your help

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Team: 2022-23 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 18, 2022
Published: Sep. 18, 2022
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    The likely hood if Matthews to Los Angeles might be unrealistic and not the direction Toronto is looking towards, however what would a realistic trade look like?

    I would assume it would at least need to start with Byfield and Turcotte. What would be the additional pieces?

    I’ll list a mock trade here below and Toronto/Los Angeles fans I’ll hear out your adjustments. Let’s put Cap Space aside and just focus on the trade.

    Byfield
    Turcotte
    Kempe
    Spence
    Kupari
    2023 1st Rnd
    2024 1st Rnd
    Buyouts
    Termination Fees
    Buried
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    Logo of the PIT
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    Logo of the LAK
    2024
    Logo of the LAK
    Logo of the LAK
    Logo of the LAK
    Logo of the LAK
    Logo of the LAK
    Logo of the LAK
    Logo of the LAK
    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$82,500,000$90,743,584$637,500$3,812,500-$8,243,584
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
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    $10,000,000$10,000,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $4,250,000$4,250,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $1,350,000$1,350,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $1,675,000$1,675,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $1,875,000$1,875,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $1,300,000$1,300,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $825,000$825,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $3,150,000$3,150,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $2,900,000$2,900,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$262,500$262K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $1,700,000$1,700,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $762,500$762,500
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $750,000$750,000 (Performance Bonus$750,000$750K)
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $2,650,000$2,650,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2

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    Sep. 18, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.
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    Just wait until 2024
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    Sep. 18, 2022 at 3:11 p.m.
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    Keep adding until you absolutely gut your team of young talent and futures to the point where it's just a waste of time to add matthews and then add another 1st.
    Not even joking
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    Sep. 18, 2022 at 3:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Just wait until 2024


    Yeah, theyll need the cap room to offersheet petterson after he holds out
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    Sep. 18, 2022 at 3:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Yeah, theyll need the cap room to offersheet petterson after he holds out


    someone's salty
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    Sep. 18, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.
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    someone's salty


    Yeah, Vancouver fans every time they see a leafs logo
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    Sep. 18, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Just wait until 2024


    You do realize if hes not extended before 2024 hes most likely getting traded and that team will probs extend him right?

    As letting AM walk for nothing would not be a good look for any GM.

    Meaning unless LA traded for him they would not get him. As what we learned from Calgary you dont let a big name walk unless you got a backup plan. So unless they were for sure bringing in McDavid that year they wouldnt let him walk

    But in general hes probs signing a 16mill x 8 year deal by 2023 offseason
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    Sep. 18, 2022 at 3:36 p.m.
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    byfield, that ontario dmen forgot his name, adrian kempe, trevor moore and his mama, your next 8, 1st rounders and your seconds and dont forget danault
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 3:37 p.m.
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    someone's salty


    How does it feel knowing that no one thinks of Vancouver when they think of Canada. Vancouver is like Edmonton, no one wants to sign there tears of joy
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 3:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Keep adding until you absolutely gut your team of young talent and futures to the point where it's just a waste of time to add matthews and then add another 1st.
    Not even joking


    Quoting: jake4leafs
    byfield, that ontario dmen forgot his name, adrian kempe, trevor moore and his mama, your next 8, 1st rounders and your seconds and dont forget danault


    Matthews really isn't Gretzky, Lindros and Lemieux all combined into one, value wise.
    Of course there is a hypothetic offer that the Leafs hypothetically would consider.
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    Sep. 18, 2022 at 3:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: Luguber
    Matthews really isn't Gretzky, Lindros and Lemieux all combined into one, value wise.
    Of course there is a hypothetic offer that the Leafs hypothetically would consider.


    He's the best goal scorer in the league, a top 3 player in the league in hia prime, great defensively and on a team trying to win a cup.
    You want him, you are gonna have to break the bank.
    So hypothetically ante up
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: Babatunde
    How does it feel knowing that no one thinks of Vancouver when they think of Canada. Vancouver is like Edmonton, no one wants to sign there tears of joy


    Quoting: Babatunde
    How does it feel knowing that no one thinks of Vancouver when they think of Canada. Vancouver is like Edmonton, no one wants to sign there tears of joy


    yet another person being salty
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 4:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Luguber
    Matthews really isn't Gretzky, Lindros and Lemieux all combined into one, value wise.
    Of course there is a hypothetic offer that the Leafs hypothetically would consider.


    i would rather trade rielly and nylander for future consideration than trade matthews
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 4:05 p.m.
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    It would need to be a huge package

    High End C Prospect (Byfield)
    High End D Prospect (Brandt)|
    Kempe for cap reasons
    Walker for cap reasons
    1st in 2023 (Unprotected)
    1st in 2024 (Unprotected)
    1 or 2 more prospect (1 Turcotte or 2 of the following: Helge, Spence, Kapari)

    Damn LA has a ton of good prospects. They have done a great job! To me their team looks very good. Biggest hole I see is a proven top pair left D. If one of their prospects turn into that OR they trade for one, this team will be dangerous. They should already be very good.

    Matthews would clearly be the best player on this team... but at what cost. It seems like what Vegas did when aquiring Pietreangelo and Eichel. Both amazing pieces but it took away from what they already had going for them.

    I don't see this as a fit - YET. Once Kopitar is done with his contract and extends to be a lesser role on the team, Matthews makes a ton of sense.

    I should also mention that Leafs wouldn't trade Matthews at all (I think we all know this) At least at this point in time. - Just playing with the hypothetical situation.
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    Sep. 18, 2022 at 4:05 p.m.
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    Highly doubt any team trades for McDavid or Mathews just because of the cost. Teams will just wait to sign him.
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    Sep. 18, 2022 at 4:20 p.m.
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    leafs wouldnt move their franchise player for unproven prospects with very or no nhl experience paired with 2 frst rounders LA might be a good spot for him to sign if he hits FA, but as trade partners there is no real match
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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    Trading for Mathews would be a mistake. Toronto isn't going to trade him at the deadline while they're trying to win a Cup, so worst case scenario, you trade for his signing rights in June 2024. It would certainly cost more than the signing rights for most players, but it's not going to cost Byfield+.

    Otherwise just wait until he's a UFA and make him an offer.
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 5:58 p.m.
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    Byfield, Turcotte, Durzi and your next 3 first rounders. Toronto still wouldn't do that trade. But that is not robably close to fair value. If you want them to pull the trigger you would need to add something crazy. I'm not sure LA has that piece.
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 5:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    Trading for Mathews would be a mistake. Toronto isn't going to trade him at the deadline while they're trying to win a Cup, so worst case scenario, you trade for his signing rights in June 2024. It would certainly cost more than the signing rights for most players, but it's not going to cost Byfield+.

    Otherwise just wait until he's a UFA and make him an offer.


    I think the entire idea is based around Matthews staying in Toronto. Which is the most likely outcome.
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 6:23 p.m.
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    I think the entire idea is based around Matthews staying in Toronto. Which is the most likely outcome.


    My point was that Matthews is either going to re-sign in Toronto or walk at UFA. There's no situation where Toronto will trade him, because no one would be willing to give up the insane haul it would cost when he can just walk to UFA in 2024.
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 6:54 p.m.
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    I don’t think the leafs would trade him for anything TBH. Probably just play out the year as Matthews single handedly turns this team into a (regular season at least) powerhouse and there’s just no way of replacing that.
    Sep. 19, 2022 at 1:35 p.m.
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    his contract will be signed before he steps on the ice for the 23/24 season
    Sep. 19, 2022 at 3:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    My point was that Matthews is either going to re-sign in Toronto or walk at UFA. There's no situation where Toronto will trade him, because no one would be willing to give up the insane haul it would cost when he can just walk to UFA in 2024.


    The agm is for this year. You're right though. It would be a crippling haul. For a team with the right pieces it might be the right move. LA is close to that but they just lack that star prospect that's needed to add to my proposal. But teams won't go at the price. Players like Matthews aren't traded.

    Now if he refuses to extend this offseason then you will see a trade. Take the Tkachuk trade and double it for a Matthews sign and trade. But I get the feeling he will re sign with the leafs. He likes the team, staff and city. The Tkachuk situation I called as soon as Tkachuk signed that bridge deal.
    Sep. 19, 2022 at 3:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: GenXHockey
    The agm is for this year. You're right though. It would be a crippling haul. For a team with the right pieces it might be the right move. LA is close to that but they just lack that star prospect that's needed to add to my proposal. But teams won't go at the price. Players like Matthews aren't traded.

    Now if he refuses to extend this offseason then you will see a trade. Take the Tkachuk trade and double it for a Matthews sign and trade. But I get the feeling he will re sign with the leafs. He likes the team, staff and city. The Tkachuk situation I called as soon as Tkachuk signed that bridge deal.


    I don't think anyone will trade for a rental Matthews if that's the cost. If he's not willing to sign in Toronto, he likely already has another desired destination in mind (Arizona?), and if that's the case, why would any team, especially the team that he wants to play for give up a haul for him when they know they can sign him in UFA for nothing.

    As we learned from the Jack Campbell signing, the no tampering rule is really only a suggestion.
    Sep. 19, 2022 at 3:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    I don't think anyone will trade for a rental Matthews if that's the cost. If he's not willing to sign in Toronto, he likely already has another desired destination in mind (Arizona?), and if that's the case, why would any team, especially the team that he wants to play for give up a haul for him when they know they can sign him in UFA for nothing.

    As we learned from the Jack Campbell signing, the no tampering rule is really only a suggestion.


    Certainly won't be Arizona. I'm not sure where you are getting rental Matthews from. Why did Florida pay a haul for Tkachuk?
    Sep. 19, 2022 at 3:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: GenXHockey
    Certainly won't be Arizona. I'm not sure where you are getting rental Matthews from. Why did Florida pay a haul for Tkachuk?


    Rental is maybe not the right word. "Unextended."

    Florida paid that haul because they were able to immediately sign Tkachuk to an extension. If Matthews is traded this season, he's not allowed to sign an extension until the following summer. A team won't take that risk.
     
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