Canucks decline luke schenn is untouchable

He's untouchable until literally anyone can have him in the offseason while Canucks let him walk for free99

Who makes a 32 year old 7/8 defenceman untouchable? Lol

Whats the incentive for LA here?

There isn’t, the LD the Kings are looking for is to be paired with Roy.

I was thinking that with LA having an abundance of RHD a deal could make sense for both sides. Would LA be more willing to move Durzi or Clarke instead?

Durzi and Walker both can play LD. Durzi is currently paired with Roy.

Clarke has played his 9 games and is likely in a holding pattern until he can be loaned to the world juniors before he plays his 10th. The first player who will be for sale by the Kings is Walker, he’s the easiest to replace and provides cap space. Roy played Doughty’s role last season and the Kings went to the playoffs, a very strong upgrade at D would be required to move Roy.

Durzi 100%, Clarke absolutely not. Clarke is their eventual replacement for DD and Roy is their only shutdown defensman. Best bet is Durzi or Walker

So basically would have to be a Durzi+forward that the Leafs may want (maybe Iafallo?) for Sandin+roster player (Engvall+mid picks) if an LA/TOR trade were to happen.

The Leafs can then pursue a shutdown LD to replace Muzzin if they so wish.

Best team in the east? probably worst goalkeeping of any of the top 10 teams in the east.

LA would need more. Just not sure Sandin has the value you think he does, and not sure LA wants another young dman.

Doubtful on that example since Durzi > Sandin and Iafallo > Engvall.

I think if LA wants a top 4 LD they aren't going to be looking at a guy who isn't currently a top 4 caliber defenseman

Durzi is currently playing the same role as Sandin on LD2 with Matt Roy, where is the value for LA? Durzi would be moved in a Chychrun play perhaps, but not for Sandin as the primary piece.

Sandin and Durzi are around the same level, and in the long-term they are probably both top 4 Dman, Sandin is getting paid less though, and each team needs the opposite. If they are looking for a top 4 guy now then it doesnt make sense. Iaffalo for Engvall would be a downgrade but he's a good pker and isn't coming with term and the picks from Toronto could be used to get more picks. Moving out Iafallo would open up cap space for a top 6 replacement with the opens up some room+get futures for a top 6 addition if they are wanting to do that. I could see them adding Gavrikov with a pick (CBJ don't need another RD so trading Durzi straight wouldn't work) to play the top 4.

edit: I just realized the other LD is Mikey Anderson, so it wouldn't make sense to get Sandin and then another guy like Gavrikov.

Durzi could just also be moved for picks too, but I think most LD upgrades would require multiple moves unless they are trying to acquire Chychrun with Durzi.

Durzi plus something for Sandin plus Toronto's 2023 first is conceivable, but I can't imagine Toronto doing that and I can't imagine Los Angeles wanting anything less -- right now, Durzi is doing exactly what Sandin would be doing.

The value is in the cap cleared and getting someone who isn't playing the offside, unless Chychrun is the guy they want, all other LD options probably will require Durzi or a RD going elsewhere. Gavrikov and Soucy for example, CBJ certainly doesn't need another RD, and I don't think that SEA needs one either.

edit: I just realized the other LD is Mikey Anderson, so it wouldn't make sense to get Sandin and then another guy like Gavrikov.

Yeah, Toronto isn't going to do anything short of a 1 for 1, if there is a 1st involved they would want someone like Iafallo coming back. Durzi and Sandin are both playing their off-side currently so that's why I can see it happen. Of course, I think LA is going to focus on Chychrun, and waiting for him to return and the price to drop. He fits the bill in terms of age/role perfectly.

I just realized the other LD is Mikey Anderson, so it wouldn't make sense to get Sandin and then another guy like Gavrikov.

The Kings will always have a stay-at-home role played with an offensive dman, it's been this way since their cup runs.

Anderson(def dman) / Doughty (off dman)
Durzi (off dman) / Roy (def dman
Edler (def dman) / Walker (off dman) Clarke (off dman)

Next year the team will likely look something like this:

Anderson(def dman) / Doughty (off dman)
TBD (off dman) / Roy (def dman)
Bjornfot (def dman) or Moverare (def dman) / Clarke (off dman) or Durzi (off dman) or Spence (off dman)

The Kings have plenty to answer that 3LD/3RD role, they will need to find that elusive 2LD who can play both strong offense and defense, and they will need to replace the experience of Edler leaving. That is very few players, so until they can find a better answer than Durzi, Durzi will continue in that role.

So, then I guess it is possible for something like Sandin + Gavrikov coming in with Durzi going out, if they can't just do Durzi out, Chychrun in type of thing. Although, it's very unlikely that the Leafs trade Sandin away or even trade for Durzi. They are also in need for a defensive guy, or an offensive guy with defensive upside.

I think it will be LA who lands Chychrun unless he goes to some unexpected place like Phi. Perhaps Durzi or Walker just get moved for futures to MTL or OTT if they aren't included in the Chychrun deal.

He's not untouchable lol. He's just been one of the few guys that actually plays with heart on the Canucks this year

Move everyone then

I could see Durzi for Sandin 1-for-1. Both Roy and Iafallo are non-starters.