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NEED OPINIONS FOR A DEBATE

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Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 20, 2022
Published: Dec. 20, 2022
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Trades
BUF
  1. Hughes, Quinn
VAN
  1. Cozens, Dylan
  2. 2023 1st round pick (BUF)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$71,007,500$0$2,770,000$11,492,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000$9,000,000
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NMC
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Mittelstadt, Casey
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
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Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
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Olofsson, Victor
$4,750,000$4,750,000
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Jost, Tyson
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C
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Tuch, Alex
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Girgensons, Zemgus
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LW, C
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Thompson, Tage
$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
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Hinostroza, Vinnie
$1,700,000$1,700,000
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Peterka, John-Jason
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Waivers ExemptQuinn, Jack
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Krebs, Peyton
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C, LW
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Samuelsson, Mattias
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LD
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Dahlin, Rasmus
$6,000,000$6,000,000
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Anderson, Craig
$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
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Hughes, Quinn
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LD
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Power, Owen
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Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
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Pilut, Lawrence
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Lyubushkin, Ilya
$687,500$687,500
RD
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Clague, Kale
$750,000$750,000
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Bishop, Ben
$4,916,667$4,916,667
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Fitzgerald, Casey
$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Jokiharju, Henri
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
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Asplund, Rasmus
$825,000$825,000
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Bryson, Jacob
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Comrie, Eric
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.
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That’s not a mammoth trade. Think about what you’d want for Dahlin and then increase it because of how incredibly bad our defense would be without Hughes
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.
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I wouldn't trade cozens for Hughes 1 for 1
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
That’s not a mammoth trade. Think about what you’d want for Dahlin and then increase it because of how incredibly bad our defense would be without Hughes


Dahlin>>Hughes
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.
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Vancouver wins, Centers are infinitely more valuable than small purely offensive dmen. Cozens is just better regardless
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Dahlin>>Hughes


Only this year. Hughes has easily been better since they started their career.
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:09 p.m.
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Vancouver wins, Center are infinitely more valuable than small purely offensive dmen

L take. A 2C and a mid first doesn’t get you a franchise d man. This isn’t a mammoth trade
Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
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That’s not a mammoth trade. Think about what you’d want for Dahlin and then increase it because of how incredibly bad our defense would be without Hughes


not the point of this post.
Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
L take. A 2C and a mid first doesn’t get you a franchise d man. This isn’t a mammoth trade


hughes is a great dman. Not franchise. That term is thrown around too lightly
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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I would def take Quinn
Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: asauer1122
hughes is a great dman. Not franchise. That term is thrown around too lightly


Dahlin is not a franchise d man then. Those 2 are in the same tier of Elite I guess. I’m fine with that
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
L take. A 2C and a mid first doesn’t get you a franchise d man. This isn’t a mammoth trade


Hughes isn't a franchise d man.
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
L take. A 2C and a mid first doesn’t get you a franchise d man. This isn’t a mammoth trade


Hughes is not a franchise d man.
Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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not the point of this post.


Then what is the point? If you want Hughes, it will take a mammoth offer to acquire him. This isn’t a mammoth offer. Canucks lose
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
Only this year. Hughes has easily been better since they started their career.


Quinn started his career at 20, two years older than dahlin. Dahlin is just plain better skill wise and defensively.
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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Dahlin is not a franchise d man then. Those 2 are in the same tier of Elite I guess. I’m fine with that


Dahlin is obviously a franchise d man.
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Hughes isn't a franchise d man.


Quoting: Shibbal18
Hughes is not a franchise d man.


Then neither is Dahlin. Im fine with putting Hughes and Dahlin in the same tier of elite
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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Dahlin is not a franchise d man then. Those 2 are in the same tier of Elite I guess. I’m fine with that


Dahlin is top 3 in the league. Hughes is top 15-20
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Quinn started his career at 20, two years older than dahlin. Dahlin is just plain better skill wise and defensively.


Let’s be real, neither of them have ever been good defensively
Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Dahlin>>Hughes


Quoting: Juiceman
Only this year. Hughes has easily been better since they started their career.


This is going to be controversial, but I don’t think Quinn Hughes is one of the top three defenseman from that draft. I think Dahlin, Dobson, and Miller are all better than Hughes and Durzi is closing in on him fast.
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Then what is the point? If you want Hughes, it will take a mammoth offer to acquire him. This isn’t a mammoth offer. Canucks lose


A point per game 2 way 21 year old center and likely a top 15 pick for a luxury model tyson barrie? Looooooool
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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I think both teams decline honestly. Sabres need a 2C a lot more than they need another top pair LD, and Canucks need a top pair Ld a lot more than they need a 2C.
Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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Then neither is Dahlin. Im fine with putting Hughes and Dahlin in the same tier of elite


You can be fine with it, as long as you are fine with being wrong.
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: asauer1122
Dahlin is top 3 in the league. Hughes is top 15-20

Maybe in the first 30 games this season 😂. He isn’t in the same tier as guys like Makar, Fox, Hedman, McAvoy. Hughes and Dahlin are in the same tier
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:15 p.m.
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This is going to be controversial, but I don’t think Quinn Hughes is one of the top three defenseman from that draft. I think Dahlin, Dobson, and Miller are all better than Hughes and Durzi is closing in on him fast.

There is no way you just considered Miller and Durzi. Neither of them have had nearly the same impact as Hughes. Laughably bad. I’ve respected you on here before but that is just shocking
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:15 p.m.
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Maybe in the first 30 games this season 😂. He isn’t in the same tier as guys like Makar, Fox, Hedman, McAvoy. Hughes and Dahlin are in the same tier


I’d actually put Dahlin in that tier tbh. And I’d probably take Hedman out based on his play this year.
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