He has more value than that. A so so prospect, ufa and a late 2nd shouldn't be the best we can get for Bert. Provided he's healthy at the deadline.

1st rounder plus a decent sweetener of some kind I'd imagine, assuming DET doesn't think he'll re-sign, or they don't find a sign and trade partner to up the price a bit. Assuming he's had a runway of good play coming back from injury before TDL.

If he gets in 15 games and puts puts in 8 to 10 goals, his value will skyrocket. If he had a healthy season, I think he'd be having a 35 to 40 goal campaign this year.

For a player they intend to put on the 1st line.

1st line quality player, not trying to contend it, but these lines are also not how it would go. We'd keep the current Matthews line together (Bunting - Matthews - Nylander), then JT and Marner get Bertuzzi. He'd be the perfect winger for that line actually, if healthy.

Yeah I thought that might be a bit to precise after I hit submit. I should've said a top 6 forward.

I mean its not technically wrong like we kinda run two first lines with no real preference to either

If healthy, and it's an absolute lock that he won't be. Never has been. Plus he's just not who we need. He's not a team player either. Let him get resigned for way too much somewhere.

we wouldn't re-sign him. He's a great player with the perfect skill set to mesh with that line. Usually good for ~70 games, but does have some injury tendency - though we're not taking him long term so its not as big a concern as long as he's healthy at TDL. Also what makes him "not a team player"?

Being a conspiracy theori

Being a conspiracy theorist and refusing to get vaccinated.

won't get too political but he should get a say over what he puts into his body, its a personal choice because it is possible to have implications. That being said the probabilities aren't all that high of complications and personally I'm not against taking it, but I wouldn't hold it over someone who didn't feel the same way about it because its a personal choice with personal risks/rewards. Much less if its someone who would help the team, which he undoubtedly would healthy (which is really the only logical arguing point against pursuing him)

If you have a legit reason for not getting a vaccine which there are legitimately reasons, that's entirely fine. If you don't want one because you read some nonsense article on a conspiracy peddling website, you are just plain irresponsible and selfish. He didn't have a medical reason for it. So his reason is entirely based off misinformation and you don't believe in reality, your character is shot and I don't see the Leafs having and desire to pursue someone like that. He's similar to DeAngelo. Just a lost cause.

well like any drug, side effects and adverse reactions do exist. Like I said, the odds are low enough that it didn't bother me personally, but for an athlete in peak shape, covid wasn't going to kill him, and I can understand why you might choose not to take the risks associated with the drug. Personal/medical choices shouldn't have bearing in the workplace. I don't agree, I don't support it, but I wouldn't shun someone for a decision where it is possible to have risks impacting your life. Low odds, but not zero.

Lets end it here, this isn't a place for this kind of discussion.

Please stop with this BS. He choose not to get the shot, his choice and may or may bit have to do with your lame excuse.

This is a hockey site not politics. If you want to put that kind of crap on a post please use another site.

That is untrue. An iron man in southern Ontario with zero underlying medical conditions died of covid. The side effects from Covid monumentally outweighed the side effects from the vaccine. The information was all readily available, not getting it was far more risky and put everyone else at risk. Bertuzzi is selfish.

Trash offer that Detroit immediately declines.

Actions have consequences, choosing to ignore science to because you read a bunch of nonsense misinformation has consequences. I'm not alone in seeing Bertuzzi as a selfish fool. His mindset makes him more trouble than it's worth.

While not nearly as bad as some stuff that certain types of fans ignore because winning is all that matters, doesn't sit well with everyone. Character matters to some a lot more than others. And some players are good but have bad character. I put a lot of importance on character. These players are role models and if I am running a franchise, I would want my team to be good but also top notch people. Guys like Bertuzzi, DeAngelo, Kane, Jake Virtanen, Alex Formeton and others are varying degrees of bad people with poor character. I don't want them on my team because of that. If you are fine with that, that's your problem. Personally I want to teach my kids that being a good person is the most important thing in life. Bertuzzi should learn some lessons and until he does, I have no interest in him.

Keep him

Detroit has zero interest in that trade.

What an awful take.

Yeah but for the most part it's top 6 with the #1C being the only one to referred by himself.

But it's the truth