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Kane and Xhekaj to NYR

Created by: LIRIK
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 29, 2022
Published: Dec. 29, 2022
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My thought process is Kane is worth two 1st at trade deadline and Lafreniere value is a little higher than Dach was.

NYR trade Lafreniere instead of two 1st, they get Kane 75% retained and Xhekaj. Kane extend on a friendly deal, 3 years under 6M.

Chicago get a 2023 potential lottery winning top 15 pick. They love top 15 picks and probably don't want Lafreniere anyway.

MTL is overpaying and taking a huge risk in trading the FLO 2023 1st, but Lafreniere could be better than Dach in MTL.
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
CHI
  1. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
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Potential lottery winner
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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22$82,500,000$77,794,166$1,132,500$8,340,000$4,705,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 3
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 4
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3

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Dec. 29, 2022 at 8:56 p.m.
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Mtl needs to pay more for laf
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Dec. 29, 2022 at 9:03 p.m.
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No this is not something that makes sense for Montreal the risk of Laf not working out and the pick winning the lottery far out weighs Laf maybe breaking out. Rags fans have been saying for 3 years Laf is about to break out, this seems like a Drouin type of move all over again. The definition of insanity according to Einstein is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. This is insane, trade Sergachev (what we needed) for Drouin because he had potential to be a good center, now you want to trade what we need (high draft picks) for potential again. I am just going to shake my head at that.
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Dec. 29, 2022 at 9:03 p.m.
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This is way too much for Laffy. I would do Xhekaj ++ but I wouldn't add a 1st. Risk is too high at 21.
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Dec. 29, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Howie
Mtl needs to pay more for laf


LMAO an unprotected top 10 pick in the deepest draft since 2015 and a solid D man who is leading all rookie D men in goals and has potential to be a 2nd pairing guy. Montreal isn't even offering that!!!
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Dec. 29, 2022 at 9:19 p.m.
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This is a really cool trade. I gotta give u credit on the creativity. NYR gets infinitely better. MTL gets a lottery superstar. Chicago gets a would-be lottery pick.

With all that being said, I think Chicago needs more coming back in the deal. Maybe NYR adds a 2nd? MTL adds a 3rd or 4th ?
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Dec. 29, 2022 at 9:23 p.m.
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Or NYR keeps their bust player. That's even better to me.
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Dec. 29, 2022 at 9:26 p.m.
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Chicago probably gets a little more
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Dec. 29, 2022 at 9:26 p.m.
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Or NYR keeps their bust player. That's even better to me.


But he's French
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Dec. 29, 2022 at 9:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
But he's French


I know, French bust wink

To be honest I rather trade him for a Q Byfield which is the pick they should have gone for but didn't. LAK are pretty stocked on center position so that might work?

If to go that path, I mean smile
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Dec. 29, 2022 at 9:48 p.m.
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Terrible trade for Montreal.

They lose the young offense and toughness on the back end, lose a Florida 1st rd pick which has a possibility of being a top 15 pick in a deep draft, and is unprotected (small odds at moving up)

In exchange they get an under-performing RW to a position that is contractually stacked with Dach, Gallagher, Anderson and Armia for the next several years, and of which, Laf is likely not beating out the first 3 to get top 3 line minutes.
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Dec. 29, 2022 at 10:12 p.m.
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hawks decline. A single middle of the pack 1st isn't enough for Kane
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Dec. 29, 2022 at 10:33 p.m.
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Xhekaj stay at Montreal
Dec. 29, 2022 at 10:37 p.m.
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First, i love that fans from many teams are saying this trade favors a different team. Probably shows that this trade is close to be fair for the three teams.

Quoting: Campabee
No this is not something that makes sense for Montreal the risk of Laf not working out and the pick winning the lottery far out weighs Laf maybe breaking out. Rags fans have been saying for 3 years Laf is about to break out, this seems like a Drouin type of move all over again. The definition of insanity according to Einstein is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. This is insane, trade Sergachev (what we needed) for Drouin because he had potential to be a good center, now you want to trade what we need (high draft picks) for potential again. I am just going to shake my head at that.


Could be a better Dach. Lafreniere have a higher ceiling.

Quoting: AG_sweden
Or NYR keeps their bust player. That's even better to me.


MTL wouldn't offer FLO 2023 1st and Xhekaj for a bust.

Quoting: IDKtbh
This is a really cool trade. I gotta give u credit on the creativity. NYR gets infinitely better. MTL gets a lottery superstar. Chicago gets a would-be lottery pick.

With all that being said, I think Chicago needs more coming back in the deal. Maybe NYR adds a 2nd? MTL adds a 3rd or 4th ?


Thanks for the nice comment. From my point of view, Chicago win the trade because they get a would-be lottery pick. That's better than two late 1st, the rumored asked price.

Could see MTL adding a 2nd conditionnal on Panthers making the playoffs. Guarantees no one gets scammed.

Quoting: Shibbal18
Chicago probably gets a little more


Quoting: Wadejos123
hawks decline. A single middle of the pack 1st isn't enough for Kane


Wouldn't Chicago rather have a top 15 potential lottery winner instead of two late 1st?
Dec. 29, 2022 at 11:19 p.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
First, i love that fans from many teams are saying this trade favors a different team. Probably shows that this trade is close to be fair for the three teams.



Could be a better Dach. Lafreniere have a higher ceiling.



MTL wouldn't offer FLO 2023 1st and Xhekaj for a bust.



Thanks for the nice comment. From my point of view, Chicago win the trade because they get a would-be lottery pick. That's better than two late 1st, the rumored asked price.

Could see MTL adding a 2nd conditionnal on Panthers making the playoffs. Guarantees no one gets scammed.





Wouldn't Chicago rather have a top 15 potential lottery winner instead of two late 1st?


I think they get a lottery pick + Roster player+ prospect
Dec. 29, 2022 at 11:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
LMAO an unprotected top 10 pick in the deepest draft since 2015 and a solid D man who is leading all rookie D men in goals and has potential to be a 2nd pairing guy. Montreal isn't even offering that!!!


WPG fans wouldn't take a 1st from MTL unless we paid them to do so... no point in arguing with them.
Dec. 29, 2022 at 11:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I think they get a lottery pick + Roster player+ prospect


What would Buffalo offer for him?
Dec. 29, 2022 at 11:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I think they get a lottery pick + Roster player+ prospect


Which contender in the rental market for Kane has a lottery pick?
Dec. 30, 2022 at 12:33 a.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
What would Buffalo offer for him?


I would 100% trade Mittlestadt the, 23 first without batting an eye. But if adding a prospect I'd want Kane to stick around for a few years, which may be hard to convince him to stay when he's on the 3rd line. Most Sabres fans don't want to give up anything for him too, and wait til free agency if anything, which would be GMKA's MO. So I think Buffalo is not a team that would be bidding.
Dec. 30, 2022 at 12:37 a.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
Which contender in the rental market for Kane has a lottery pick?


Not many firsts traded right now
Dec. 30, 2022 at 7:19 a.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
First, i love that fans from many teams are saying this trade favors a different team. Probably shows that this trade is close to be fair for the three teams.


Could be a worse Drouin since he hasn't even put up the points Drouin did when we traded for him.

Quoting: LIRIK
Could be a better Dach. Lafreniere have a higher ceiling.



MTL wouldn't offer FLO 2023 1st and Xhekaj for a bust.



Thanks for the nice comment. From my point of view, Chicago win the trade because they get a would-be lottery pick. That's better than two late 1st, the rumored asked price.

Could see MTL adding a 2nd conditionnal on Panthers making the playoffs. Guarantees no one gets scammed.





Wouldn't Chicago rather have a top 15 potential lottery winner instead of two late 1st?
Dec. 30, 2022 at 8:22 a.m.
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Wouldn't Chicago rather have a top 15 potential lottery winner instead of two late 1st?[/quote]

In this deep of a draft I believe two late 1st's over one mid first, maybe others disagree with me
Dec. 30, 2022 at 3:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Wouldn't Chicago rather have a top 15 potential lottery winner instead of two late 1st?


In this deep of a draft I believe two late 1st's over one mid first, maybe others disagree with me[/quote]

I believe two late 1st must be worth close to a mid 1st, given that AZ gave a late 1st and two 2nd last draft for 11OA.

But with all the elite talent on the top 10 in 2023, a shot at winning the lottery is worth more this draft than any others.
Dec. 30, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Could be a worse Drouin since he hasn't even put up the points Drouin did when we traded for him.


Drouin was playing top 6 with good players in Tampa. Lafreniere was never given a real shot at top 6.

I agree it's a risk, but his ceiling is way higher than Drouin or Dach. Could still become a 30-40 goal scorer.
 
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