Absolutely not dude
The 4th or 5th has no value to us whatsoever
Our prospect pool is pretty stacked (besides RD), and we have three 2nds this year, on top of our normal picks

Simmonds also unlikely to be of interest
We already had him here for part of a season & it didn’t work out well- can’t see him coming back


I get that you like Asplund
Makes sense, he’s a good player
But he’s also worth more to us than he would be in a trade,
so it’s kinda hard to see us moving him tbh

You’re proposal here doesn’t make any sense for us though

Heh. You're not getting him for peanut shells.

I think we would want more than any team would reasonably give up- so i think he stays a Sabre

Simmonds is a cap dump and the Sabres already tried that

How do you think, he's a healthy scratch, that can't beat out Krebs on the 4th Line?

Forget Simmonds, I would take a 3rd though.

Simple answer:
Asplund is a winger & Krebs has been playing well at Center on our “defensive” line

Longer answer:
Girgensons & Okposo wear an “A” & the “C” for us, so they aren’t getting scratched
Asplund (& Girgensons) both got their shot at Center on that line & it just wasn’t working till we moved Krebs down to Center the line
It’s a numbers thing & not indicative of Asplund’s play

I mean Asplund hasn't been good this year. His defensive game has taken a step back & he's still pretty useless on offense. Jost pretty much replaced him and has played better.

Really its the offer that is weak.

TOR 3rd 2023 and something else might be enough, OTT 3rd 2023 by itself might be intriguing. And BUF has a ton of prospects, so offering the usual TOR offcasts like Abruezze or Ovichnikov probably carries little interest. Maybe Timmins and TOR 3rd 2023 or TOR 4th 2024? Maybe they do it for high end Robertson, who carries meh value at moment (not producing on an offensive team, injuries, size, etc...), while I would value robertson higher, hes worth nothing if he cant translate his juniors scoring to NHL. Maybe a RD prospect like Villenueve and TOR 3rd 2023 or TOR 4th 2024?

But offering Simmonds, available on waiver wire multiple times for free and pretty much done in the NHL at this point carries NO value.

I would take Timmins

Krebs is a player that's significantly better than a 4th line role

Why would we give away an inexpensive player with 2 rfa years remaining?

Asplund has 2 rfa years left and is super inexpensive. We have 4 forwards who will be free agents and their return is unclear. Why would we trade him?

from the outside: it's hard for me to think of the Sabres being interested in a package that's focused on futures. Simmonds/4th/5th absolutely does not get it done - both because it's just not enough value, but also to me because the picks aren't as important to Buffalo as they might've been a few seasons ago. Look at their CF page - they've already got Peterka, Quinn, Krebs, Cozens, & Power as NHLers on their ELCs, with a ton of guys like Ostlund, Savoie, Rosen, and how many others ready to go behind them. They don't *need* more picks or prospects - if they're moving guys off their NHL roster, it's going to be to fill a different hole on the NHL team.

When did I say anything about trading Asplund?

Then why are you in this thread?

OP said Asplund being a healthy scratch is "not indicative of his play"

I said "Asplund hasn't been good this year. His defensive game has taken a step back & he's still pretty useless on offense"

Usually good to read comments before you reply to them

The entire AGM exists only for as asplund trade.

Even if your comments are accurate, I'll still explaining why this trade makes no sense

I'm not the one that made the AGM. Why are you telling me lol?

Great conversations.
How refreshing to see a Leaf fan @mokumboi, an Islander fan @dannibalcorpse and a Blues fan @mokumboi understand why Buffalo will not trade Asplund for the Peanut Shells offered here, Simmonds and a pick.
Far be it from me to think Asplund is a critical cog to the Sabres making the playoffs, but he is still worth more to the Sabres than most other teams.
ElectroMan is correct Jost has taken his spot in the line, but has more to do with how well Tyson is playing than a step back from Asplund (or Hinostroza).
When the Sabres make a roster move it will most likely be for a player and not picks.

Its nice to see fans of multiple teams understand that BOTH sides have a need/want. BUF doesn;t need tons of futures, they have many. So really what is it they lack? Maybe a solid vet, maybe a RD, maybe a RD prospect. Asplund isn;t worth the moon, and BUF ultimately has options to replace him.

So looking at TOR, what can TOR part with that BUF wants/needs. Timmins and a 3rd sounds about right, but I'm not sure they're good trading partners.

I like Asplund and unfortunately he is caught in a numbers game right now. But I would trade him for Timmins and the pick. Actually maybe add Murray with Asplund. About what Toronto gave up for Timmins.