Demko yes Boesser no

I think with Demko it depends heavily on health

How is Boeser an "automatic 60 point winger"? He has had 55, 56, 45, 49 and 46 point seasons prior to this season.

Boeser with significant retention will net a 1st. And Demko fetches a 1st depending on his play when he returns from injury

Automatic 60 point PACE winger. Only once in his career hd he scored at less than a 60 point pace and his career points per game is 64 points per 82 games

Canucks won’t move him for anything less

Demko probably, depending on the package. Boeser is not

Only scenario where Boeser fetches a first is if the Canucks retain 50% or take another bad contract back

Why would the Sabres want to trade away their 1st rd pick for a goalie that's not better than the goalies they have?

Lol 15 bad games and all of a sudden Demko is worse than all the Sabres goalies? Hysterical...

I'll take UPL any day over Demko! He has a .883 save %, and a .909 % for his career. He's an average goalie, no gm will give up a 1st for him.

Some team could spend a 1st on Demko, but the Canucks are more likely to have to deal a 1st with Boeser then get a 1st back for him.
Patches and Björkstrand, both superior to Boeser went for nothing and next to nothing, respectively.
Boeser is getting outscored, ooutchanced and outshot at a terrible rate, meaning his points cost the Canucks a fair bit more than they are worth.

An on-ice net negative winger at 4.65m shouldn't return much of anything at this point in time.
If the Canucks can get the Björkstrand return for Boeser without retaining 50% then Alvin should jump on that opportunity.

Demko last season is worth a 1st. Not right now though

Boeser on the other hand is worth a 3rd and 4th this season. The team would be lucky if they got a 2nd round pick or a 1st from him with salary retained.

Not to the Sabres he isn't. Again if UPL hadn't started playing better the last month or so it might be a more pressing need. The Sabres don't need to trade for Demko, and definitely not for a 1st if they did decide to.

Whether Demko is worth a 1st or not is elementary as far as the Sabres are concerned...UPL has played fine, fine enough to take over the #1 goalie on the team.
Can't see the Sabres spending a 1st on a goalie as this team has more needs than a goalie right now.

My opinion for what it's worth is where in the first round the pick is...can't see a team trading a lottery pick and if protected and it goes to the 24 draft would be a big gambling bc if they weren't good in 23, there's no guarantee they will be better in 24.

Boeser definitely not. Demko not the way he has played this year, maybe in the off season but highly doubt it at the trade deadline.

15 games bud. Don’t just look at save percentage. That’s a team stat

I don't think either of these guys gets a 1st rounder back - I agree with the idea that Boeser is probably worth a 3rd+4th with no retention, bump it to a 2nd + a prospect if Vancouver retains him down. If you're paying him $4M, you can overlook some of the warts in his game a little easier than you can at $6.65M.

As far as Demko, I don't think he's as bad as his numbers have shown this year, but I just don't think anyone's trading a 1st for any goalie - hell, Marc-Andre Fleury was the reigning Vezina winner and only got a 2nd rounder last deadline. In the last 5 years, the only goalie who was traded for a 1st rounder was the Avs trading for Darcy Kuemper before last season - and he was coming off a much better run (on a much worse team) than Demko has been on the last couple years. I just don't see a team ponying up that much value for any goalie, unless someone like Shesterkin/Sorokin/Vasilevskiy was put on the market.

Even though no one should ever give up any significant assets for any goalie and Demko has had a bad year someone would definitely give up at least a first for Demko. Lets not forget that teams were supposedly willing to give up firsts this past summer for Gibson -- who has been on a run of mediocre to bad play that is like 4 years longer than Demko's. Buffalo and LAK would be obvious destinations, maybe SEA and DET are possible fits as well.

Boeser will absolutely not get a first, even retained. In the past 3 or so years its clear that NHL teams have completely devalued the high paid, middle tier of wingers that Boeser falls into. Bjorkstrand -- a better player coming off of a much stronger year -- got a 3rd and a 4th. Burakovsky a couple years ago with a much better contract situation got a 2nd and a 3rd. Connor Brown once again with a much better contract got a 2nd. Rakell with a much better contract got a 2nd and an ok goalie prospect. A 64 point pace certainly isn't bad, but teams want to spend the 4.5-7m that they used to spend on guys like Boeser on either centers or 2-3 guys who can in total put up a similar total and help out in other ways. Would NJD give up a first to spend 4.5m on Boeser, or would they instead keep it and spend the money on say Conor Sheary, Scott Mayfield, and a vet min extra defenseman in FA?

With Boeser especially, VAN is by far best off either swapping him for another distressed asset (Hoffman? Fabbri? Mantha?) or trying to rehabilitate his value for next years deadline when his contract becomes a bit more manageable.

Yeah I think this is the most accurate take. GMs will pay for Centres, Right Handed defenseman, and Goalies. A good winger is worth the same as a mediocre centre on the trade market. A starting goalie is coveted especially on teams that have below average save percentages.

Only truly elite wingers like timo Meir will get big packages, likely