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Holding the bag

Created by: Andy_Dick
Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 12, 2023
Published: Feb. 12, 2023
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There is no excuse holding Bourgault, Schaefer and Broberg past the TDL.
You are in your window and you need to win for McDavid/Draisaitl possibly resigning. They are less likely to resign if you dont commit to winning now in their primes.
Nobody cares about these prospects if the Oilers win a cup in the next 3 years
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Armia, Joel ($1,000,000 retained)
2.
CHI
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. Schaefer, Reid
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler ($2,375,000 retained)
4.
5.
EDM
  1. Schenn, Luke ($425,000 retained)
VAN
  1. Wanner, Maximus
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
6.
EDM
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry ($1,000,000 retained)
ANA
  1. Ryan, Derek
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$76,149,000$896,000$1,350,000$6,351,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$0$0
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
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$798,000$798,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$425,000$425,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$125,000$125,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:15 a.m.
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That Bertuzzi trade gets beat.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:17 a.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
That Bertuzzi trade gets beat.


By whom? He has 6 pts this year in 19 games and nobody is talking about him. XB is a really good prospect. Talk about holding the bag
Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:20 a.m.
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It’s been reported Schenn likely gets a 2nd. But if those reports aren’t true and this is the best offer then the Canucks should accept
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Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:24 a.m.
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The jackets trade would get turned down unfortunately, we don't need any more defensemen. Let alone 2 more , we have soo many coming up and who have proved themselves this season. It's either picks, prospects,or top 6 forward that gets gavrikov
Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:25 a.m.
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Quoting: PantsOffnJacket
The jackets trade would get turned down unfortunately, we don't need any more defensemen. Let alone 2 more , we have soo many coming up and who have proved themselves this season. It's either picks, prospects,or top 6 forward that gets gavrikov


Oh I know about all that great upcoming young D. You can flip Barrie next season.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:26 a.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
By whom? He has 6 pts this year in 19 games and nobody is talking about him. XB is a really good prospect. Talk about holding the bag


Toronto they are willing to give up a prospect and a pick. If Bertuzzi is so bad why do you intend on playing him in your top 6?
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Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:26 a.m.
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We ain't retaining on armia for 3 years to get back a cap dump who's a worse version of armia
Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:27 a.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
Toronto they are willing to give up a prospect and a pick. If Bertuzzi is so bad why do you intend on playing him in your top 6?


Where did i say he's bad? He's at a low value and unless Toronto if offering Knies plus, they cant beat this offer.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:28 a.m.
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We ain't retaining on armia for 3 years to get back a cap dump who's a worse version of armia


The Armia one if interesting because the Habs could buy him out at almost the same price but if Puljuajrvi passes through waivers, maybe there is a fit.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:28 a.m.
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Fire J.D. too
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Oh I know about all that great upcoming young D. You can flip Barrie next season.


I see what your thinking but it's not worth it for the jackets, we will easily get a 1st or high end forward prospect+ for gavrikov.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:30 a.m.
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Quoting: PantsOffnJacket
I see what your thinking but it's not worth it for the jackets, we will easily get a 1st or high end forward prospect+ for gavrikov.


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Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:30 a.m.
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Quoting: PantsOffnJacket
I see what your thinking but it's not worth it for the jackets, we will easily get a 1st or high end forward prospect+ for gavrikov.


I mean Broberg is the Oilers best prospect. Tough to see you get better than a late 1st as Gavrikov will be going to a contender. Broberg certainly is better than a late 1st. Bemstrom would be a good AAV to fill the bottom half of the roster next year on a capped out team in 2023-24
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Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
I mean Broberg is the Oilers best prospect. Tough to see you get better than a late 1st as Gavrikov will be going to a contender.


Yeah but again he's another LD prospect, probably the most crowded position we will have over the next 2-3 seasons
Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:43 a.m.
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Quoting: PantsOffnJacket
Yeah but again he's another LD prospect, probably the most crowded position we will have over the next 2-3 seasons


I get you but Barrie has been really good this season and Broberg is also playing regular minutes. You guys arent exactly setting the world on fire and both players would help insulate your team out in the immediate future.

To me its a massive overpay. Gavrikov should get a late 1st which is maybe. Broberg looks like at worst a lower end top4 with a lot of upside. You guys have a ton of upside players but none are guaranteed. I dont see the harm in adding more lottery tickets.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Where did i say he's bad? He's at a low value and unless Toronto if offering Knies plus, they cant beat this offer.


You did how could this mean anything else?

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By whom? He has 6 pts this year in 19 games and nobody is talking about him.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 3:50 a.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
You did how could this mean anything else?


Yes, he's playing badly. U disagree?

6 pts in 19 games is good? You want to keep going in circles, arguing nonsense. Sounds great.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 5:48 a.m.
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19 lotteries, 0 wins
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
I mean Broberg is the Oilers best prospect. Tough to see you get better than a late 1st as Gavrikov will be going to a contender. Broberg certainly is better than a late 1st. Bemstrom would be a good AAV to fill the bottom half of the roster next year on a capped out team in 2023-24


Quoting: PantsOffnJacket
Yeah but again he's another LD prospect, probably the most crowded position we will have over the next 2-3 seasons


With this trade Broberg will be our 2D, and probably still or 3D for the future. With Werenski being offensive leaning, and Denton being an offensive force, we still need a big LD that can play consistent and stifling defense. Svozil reminds me of Werenski, and he was still getting walked at the WJC. Everybody else LD is lower than Broberg now. Our RD is even more crowded than LD. There's a reason the Oilers trade rumors have died down, because he is starting to play good.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 6:52 a.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Yes, he's playing badly. U disagree?

6 pts in 19 games is good? You want to keep going in circles, arguing nonsense. Sounds great.


So I'll ask again if he is playing so bad, why do you intending on playing in your top 6? To have this discussion you have to choose one or the other. Otherwise it's a logical fallacy which invalidates your entire argument. So choose one or stop wasting my time.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 7:29 a.m.
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Quoting: PantsOffnJacket
I see what your thinking but it's not worth it for the jackets, we will easily get a 1st or high end forward prospect+ for gavrikov.


You’re dreaming. The Oilers were scouting him hard and walked away because he didn’t impress. He’s not worth more than a B prospect and mid round pick.
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Feb. 12, 2023 at 7:31 a.m.
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The only possible trade out of these is the Montreal trade. It’s one thing to move your best prospects but only for quality players. These trades are not the quality you need in return.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 7:32 a.m.
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If we could get bourgault for bertuzzi I'd be happy as can be.
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Feb. 12, 2023 at 8:56 a.m.
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I really don't like having to take on Barrie, but getting Broberg might well be worth it.
Feb. 12, 2023 at 9:55 a.m.
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Hawks probably consider that deal. It would at least get a conversation started.
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Feb. 12, 2023 at 10:16 a.m.
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I don't know if CHI likes Schaefer enough. But, personally, I would probably do this.
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Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
I get you but Barrie has been really good this season and Broberg is also playing regular minutes. You guys arent exactly setting the world on fire and both players would help insulate your team out in the immediate future.

To me its a massive overpay. Gavrikov should get a late 1st which is maybe. Broberg looks like at worst a lower end top4 with a lot of upside. You guys have a ton of upside players but none are guaranteed. I dont see the harm in adding more lottery tickets.


I don't know about a massive overpayment lol but I've come round to the idea Broberg could be worth it, just more work in having to then trade Barrie. Barrie could bring in another smaller trade package though
 
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