I replied to this quote stating that it would require Marino+Mercer+MORE for Demko (the moon).
with this stating that that prospect for a goalle whos been flat out BAD this year is ridiculous. You disagreeing with that being delusional suggests that you think the moon is a reasonable requirement for demko

It seems to me you didn't even READ the comment that you replied to.

So you want more than the meier return for a goalie whos sucked this year

No because none of us having any control over the Canucks. The Vancouver Canucks management team wants that. I want McDavid but thats not going to happen. You see the difference?

Seems to me that you are responding to the wrong comments. Don't reply to me if you aren't even going to say something relevant to my comment

Ironic.

This is ACGM, and the comment gave ZERO indication that he was referring to the canucks as opposed to his own opinion. And if the canucks management wants that, they're delusional too

You literally quoted me. What is ironic about that...

I'm sure you are smarter than professional hockey team managers....

I'm not saying I agree with that price, especially for a goalie, but that's what the ask has been reported to be and those pieces fit the ask. In my opinion, it's a pretty absurd ask for a goalie. That being said, the Canucks have been very clear that they have zero interest in rebuilding and want to contend. As such, it would take a pretty hefty overpay to pry Demko away from them, as he is one of their franchise cornerstones along with Petey and Quinn.

Now that I look into it, Clark or Foote would probably be a better fit than Holtz for a "Raty-Like" prospect. Including Daws in place of the ask for a top prospect simply wouldn't be near enough. As for the 2024 1st, it is unavailabe due to the conditions on the 2024 2nd in the Timo Meier trade. Only way the pick would be available is if the trade is made specifically at the 2024 draft and New Jersey has failed to make the conference finals in both 2023 and 2024.

You're more likely to get Ullmark from Boston than you are Swayman. I would assume an Ullmark deal starts with a 1st and a good center or RD prospect.

I just don't see Swayman being available. Boston has been a team for years that builds from the net out. Swayman at 24yr old is already putting up top 10 numbers and Ullmark is only signed for 2 more years. If they traded a goalie I think it'd be Ullmark before Swayman.

I wonder if Nashville could also be a target. With Askarov right around the corner, maybe they’d be willing to move one of Saros or Askarov?

Too much uncertainty with Demko between his very poor level of play and injuries this season.
Maybe he'll be back being a superstar next season but given that he's turning 28 in December I'd steer clear paying 100 cents on the dollar for Demko.

Swayman would be perfect but may not be available.
Ullmark is a more getable option and would likely be an improvement on Vanecek.

Markström is genuinely bad at the NHL level.
Three good seasons in a 10 year career and some unearned Vezina votes last year doesn't make for a good target for a budding contender.
Factoring in his age and NMC the Devils should steer far clear of this guy.

I don't see Vladar an improvement on Vanecek, doubtful if he'd be better than Blackwood even (lateral move at the very best).
Cannot see any way Wolf would be made available, he'll be crucial for the Flames going forward given that he's got the makings of a NHL starter and on an ELC for next season.

Gustavsson is very interesting but I just don't see how the Wild would make him available.
You should be able to extend him at an AAV below Fleury's 3.5m AAV, and given that Wallstedt looks more than ready for the NHL Fleury will likely be the one to move (if they can get him to waive his NMC).

Dostal is interesting but I don't think the Ducks would make him available.
Gibson shouldn't be a target at all however, given that he's been quite bad at the NHL level through the majority of the last 4-5 seasons. He's nowhere near worth his 6m cap hit.

From the guys you listed here I think that Ullmark would make the most sense when accounting for talent, cap hit, availability and price.

No way.

I'm not sure how GMs will react to him getting less ice-time and scoring less compared to last year though.
We might know that Severson has played just as well (if not better) than last seasons but other GMs might not.
Therefore I don't think it'd be out of the question to get Severson at a 5m AAV, especially if he's offered the full 8 years and minor trade protections.
That'd be a great outcome if Marino was traded for an improvement elsewhere on the roster.

Undershooting Bratt and Meier by $1.5mil+ each. Meier is probably getting at least $9.5mil, as he is somewhere between Fiala and Pastrnak

demko ended the conversation first

you expect us to give away our franchise goalie whos locked u to a good cap hit away for nothing?? van isnt rebuilding and if they were theres a better offer out there

if you want demko ur gonna have to blow the canucks socks off. #1 need is a young centre (ideally righty)

Cool

Have fun with his .894 SV% and 3.37 GAA

goalies can have down years. been night and day since he came back from injury too

just say you dont watch the canucks... one of the hottest teams in the league sine he returned with a legit AHL blueline

yes Demko is a very hot 3-3-2 in his last 8 starts with a save % of .889. That's truly incredible numbers

Yep. A 6 game productive stretch after coming back and now he's back to being **** his last 8

He plays like this next year and. he's a cap dump. You should be rebuilding, and nobody is giving you a haul for demko unless he proves he can be elite again (for more than 6 games)

look at his blueline lol. why would the canucks sell their franchise goalie for pennys because of a bad start to the year where everyone on the team was bad. any canucks fan will tell you demko is the goalie of the future and there is no need to trade him unless its an offer you cant refuse.

in no world will demko making 5mil be a cap dump. its quite obvious you dont watch or know the canucks very much

You seem to be ignoring the fact that demko has sucked recently too. If demko has another year where heb is actively a negatuve impact on his team like he's been this year, you're going to have to pay to get rid of him. Out of 78 goalies with double digit starts, demko ranks 69th in GSAx per 60 with -0.485. That means on average, demko allows about half a goal more than he should. To put that in perspective, he's more bad than Vasy and Igor are good (they have a 0.472 and 0.429 respectively)