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2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #1: Beg for Bedard

May 31, 2023 at 6:30 a.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR




Don't really like this move tbh, although not really sure if I love any of the GM options besides Tulsky


I don’t think it’s a bad hire, Treliving has a pretty good track record ( though like Toronto, Calgary has struggled to do well in the playoffs )
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May 31, 2023 at 7:03 a.m.
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I think the best part of Treliving is that it helps quickly stabilize the situation. There isn’t a whole lot of time for a first year gm. Having an ex Canadian gm join is good for Toronto’s situation. Maybe the best possible outcome for the moment.

But it’s still a dumpster fire.

Kinda silly the only (?) hockey team with corporate board oversight is also currently the least stable (no functional continuity plan for the entire front office despite also no pending contract) and making constant reactionary decisions (only 2 skaters signed for 25/26 and roughly half their draft picks for 3 years, high value assets all have full leverage).
May 31, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.
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So Hynes just got fired and Rangers want him K
May 31, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.
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So Hynes just got fired and Rangers want him K


did u not see how well the preds did after they sold at the deadline and all their top guys were injured
May 31, 2023 at 12:35 p.m.
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did u not see how well the preds did after they sold at the deadline and all their top guys were injured


Honestly one could argue the playoff weight may have been off their shoulders. As usually we see teams who think they gonna miss do better than teams who know they gonna make it in most cases.

Was pretty funny though I will admit that. Sell and miss by like 6 points or something
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May 31, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
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May 31, 2023 at 3:11 p.m.
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If Rangers are smart Laviolette

Hynes should not be a HC in the NHL as his records terrible

Reg Season 0.525 win % Playoffs 0.211 win %

But then again hiring him would be meme worthy

DO IT
May 31, 2023 at 3:31 p.m.
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Im trying to figure out a trade involving Hanafin and Lindholm going to Carolina but the issue is what would it look like. I feel the starting points probs either Necas or Jarvis and picks/prospects

As to who or what 0 idea. Could even be bigger if both decide to agree to extensions on arrival

Hmmm gonna need to ponder this one
May 31, 2023 at 5:17 p.m.
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I don’t think it’s a bad hire, Treliving has a pretty good track record ( though like Toronto, Calgary has struggled to do well in the playoffs )


He's just okay imo, idk really know if there was a good/correct choice to make in this situation for the leafs. All the GM candicates are either inexperienced or mid.
May 31, 2023 at 5:24 p.m.
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He's just okay imo, idk really know if there was a good/correct choice to make in this situation for the leafs. All the GM candicates are either inexperienced or mid.


Mhm there was only one guy who u could say alright best of best but I feel he wants to be a president now

Doug Wilson
May 31, 2023 at 5:29 p.m.
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Mhm there was only one guy who u could say alright best of best but I feel he wants to be a president now

Doug Wilson


I'm iffy on Doug Wilson too, mostly because his final years in SJS he was a little careless giving money and term out and it's hurting SJS a lot rn imo,

Though I know he did great work for a lot of his tenure there.
May 31, 2023 at 5:43 p.m.
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Edited May 31, 2023 at 5:52 p.m.
Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
I'm iffy on Doug Wilson too, mostly because his final years in SJS he was a little careless giving money and term out and it's hurting SJS a lot rn imo,

Though I know he did great work for a lot of his tenure there.


To be fair when u trying to compete and had guys who were making it far in the playoffs and almost winning u a cup in 2016 u kind of had to go here take money try again

As really SJS should have won a cup in 2016. But Crosby just to good I guess along with Murray lul and up till 2020 Sharks were a playoff threat just needed a goalie.

To me I think hes eyeing a president job somewhere, maybe Pitt hires him as President and Dubas as GM who knows
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May 31, 2023 at 6:39 p.m.
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So Hynes just got fired and Rangers want him K


If he plays the same system he did in NJD…gonna be a rough year for Zib, Trocek and Chytil…but Panarin should rebound.
May 31, 2023 at 7:07 p.m.
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If he plays the same system he did in NJD…gonna be a rough year for Zib, Trocek and Chytil…but Panarin should rebound.


I just feel Hynes is more fit to be an assistant as man the guys got one of if not the worst playoff record rn next to Evason

I think its like .211 or something rn

Rangers be trying to win a cup right they need someone else
May 31, 2023 at 7:42 p.m.
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I just feel Hynes is more fit to be an assistant as man the guys got one of if not the worst playoff record rn next to Evason

I think its like .211 or something rn

Rangers be trying to win a cup right they need someone else


I’d be fine with NYR at .211 in playoffs.
May 31, 2023 at 7:47 p.m.
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Well Nashville, hope you prepare for Eiserman or Celebrini, because Brunette isn’t taking you anywhere
May 31, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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I’d be fine with NYR at .211 in playoffs.


Yea that would be pretty funny
May 31, 2023 at 8:25 p.m.
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Well Nashville, hope you prepare for Eiserman or Celebrini, because Burnette isn’t taking you anywhere


Considering how Devils fans really wanted to promote Brunette to HC and fire Ruff, that’s a very hot take, Brunette seems like he’s going to be a decent coach
May 31, 2023 at 9:24 p.m.
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Considering how Devils fans really wanted to promote Brunette to HC and fire Ruff, that’s a very hot take, Brunette seems like he’s going to be a decent coach


1. Thanks for putting in his name right, just shows how much I’ve paid attention to names, especially those I already think I know how to spell 💀

2. From my perspective, especially as time went on and during the playoffs it really felt like Brunette had almost no idea how to coach a team, they got lucky in round 1 Laviolette was just as incompetent (that series might be the most poorly coached series in NHL history) then got tactically spanked by Jon Cooper in round 2

And seeing the success Florida has had since they kicked him to the curb, I think it’s safe to say he was the problem the whole time.
May 31, 2023 at 10:25 p.m.
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First Buyout list had been released

Names on it

Yamamoto
Suter
Mantha
Granlund
Reilly (Mike)
Scandella
Murray
May 31, 2023 at 10:29 p.m.
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First Buyout list had been released

Names on it

Yamamoto
Suter
Mantha
Granlund
Reilly (Mike)
Scandella
Murray


If Matthews' raise is 3 mil or less and we decide to trade Nylander, then buying out Murray is the best option

If not, we need to dump his full contract
May 31, 2023 at 10:51 p.m.
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First Buyout list had been released

Names on it

Yamamoto
Suter
Mantha
Granlund
Reilly (Mike)
Scandella
Murray


Is this just your speculation or an actual reporting?
May 31, 2023 at 10:53 p.m.
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Is this just your speculation or an actual reporting?


Its like the TSN tradebait list

Basically speculative until it happens. But these lists are usually right on the mark in most cases.

Like you could see Dump trades but some teams just go **** it why spend picks when the buyout aint to expensive. Would rather have 600k go against the cap for 3 years than spend a 1st.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.
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1. Thanks for putting in his name right, just shows how much I’ve paid attention to names, especially those I already think I know how to spell 💀

2. From my perspective, especially as time went on and during the playoffs it really felt like Brunette had almost no idea how to coach a team, they got lucky in round 1 Laviolette was just as incompetent (that series might be the most poorly coached series in NHL history) then got tactically spanked by Jon Cooper in round 2

And seeing the success Florida has had since they kicked him to the curb, I think it’s safe to say he was the problem the whole time.


Look at what Minnesota’s offense did in his time there. Look at Florida’s goal output…increased every year he was in charge of offense. Look at New Jersey’s improvement between 2021-22 and 2022-23. Health, decent goaltending, maturation…there were a lot of factors, but Brunette was probably the biggest. NJD played the same system as Florida (which led the league in scoring, won the Presidents trophy, for which Brunette was named Jack Adams finalist).

Lindy had been using a much more north-south system that used speed, possession, transition to attack straight ahead. Brunette added two main wrinkles that made it all click. First, was around the notion that dman turning the puck over in the corners hurts less than turning it over in open ice. So our dmen held onto the puck longer in d-zone, which allowed the forwards to get into open space, which improved exit efficiency, and transition game. Second, was moving to a more East-West game on transition, especially after gaining neutral zone or gaining o-zone. This leads to reduction of blocked shots, which increased scoring chances via more shots on net. It was the same system as Florida and it worked.

I think Brunette’s track record has been proven enough that one could assume Nashville’s 28th ranked scoring will improve considerably next year.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:18 a.m.
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So what’s the latest on GMs?

Dubas now to Ottawa?
Tulsky to Pittsburgh?
 
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