I keep seeing these trades to the Avs of premium assets for "meh" 2C options. They don't need "meh"; they can't afford to let 1sts go for "meh". They need to hit a home run if they're trading good assets. Otherwise, they're better off just picking over the "prove it" projects like Monahan that cost them nothing extra or going after someone like O'Reilly, someone with a proven track record.

I would do all of these except Tippett. Don’t think they move him except for a huge overpay

I don't see the Flyers trading Tippett or Hart unless they are blockbuster level deals. I also doubt the Kings are willing to deal Byfield, and Petersen will put Philly on his no trade list, since I doubt he wants to be dumped to a non-contender.

For the Isles trade I would say replace Bolduc with a different prospect, as the Flyers have a pretty large amount of LHD, but the rest seems fair for that trade.

Laughts deal is good (as much as I would personally hate it, it would crush my weak soul) and I think Tony D would only get that return during the trade deadline by a team looking for a pp specialist.

All in all, not bad.

A 1st and 2nd round pick is a heavy price for $1,250,000 in cap savings I think. Tippett and Foegele are very similar players See Comparison Here, but the Oilers do need RWers. Maybe just the 2nd coming from Edmonton?

Dude lol this is insanity. Tippett is what 4 years younger? If you think Foegele being basically a nothing in this league and Tippett just having a break out year are the same player there’s just nothing to talk about here I mean that’s crazy. Look at this @moss_bucket

Yeah I don't get it either, Foegele is not a bad player, but he is pretty much set in stone for where his points will be. This was Tippett's first full season in the NHL and his production should increase in the following years.

Nobody wants that cancer DeAngelo anywhere near their locker room, never mind playing that price to do it.

Buffalo pass, we don't need Deangelo

Edmonton takes this deal and runs!!!!

That's what many a Oilers fan thought about Yamamoto too. When Foegele got more opportunity in the top 6 last season with Kane being injured he Foegele vs Tippett 22/23 and defensively Foegele vs Tippett 22/23 Defense

Dude this just isn’t it lol. Tippett will end up lightyears better than Foegele.

Last season the Flyers only had 17 more GA than the Oilers. With team defense being the greatest concern for the Oilers next season the problem would be Foegele vs Tippett 22/23 Defense, and Foegele vs Tippett 22/23 PK for me

He may end up better, and I agree it's more than likely he does. I've said nothing to the contrary, but the Oilers are challenging and have to take who's better now into consideration too is all I'm trying to convey.

Tippett is better NOW and will be even better next year. If ur challenging what do u need picks for

Here, I'll give you what you want.

"You're right, I'm wrong. How could I be so stupid, I should only listen to you and never question anything.
Can you think for me from now on, please?"

lol, what a joke.

This isn’t even about opinions it’s just facts of the Flyers we’re to trade for Tippett, the whole point of this thread, that’s what it would cost. Probably more than that tbh. If you want to say it’s because they are comparable on defense then go ahead

Foegele vs Tippett Offence

Foegele vs Tippett Defense

Everything you've said is opinion

2022-2023:
Tippett PPG: 0.64 at 24 in his first full season in the league was 1 off of 50 points

Foegele PPG: 0.42 at 27 has hit 30 points once in his career

I don’t care about the defensive stats of a young kid in the league that’s known for his skating ability and shot. If Oilers aren’t great defensively then get defenseman

The narrative behind players is crucial to understand their value. For Philadelphia, Tippett saw increases in his P/60 by 31.21% in his age 24 season while Foelege had two consecutive years of falling P/60 rates ( -17.52% from 19-20 to 20-21 & -13.75% from 20-21 to 21-22). His decreased production in his prime years (25 & 26 years old) and recent resurgence seems more unsustainable compared to Tippett, who is just entering his prime.

Tippett's pedigree and scoring ability during his junior days also play into the narrative of how his future value will be greater than Foegeles. He gets traded to a new team with a new coach and sees success that he hasn't seen in the NHL before. Foegele and Tippett might have similar present values to each team, but Tippett's value is more so tied to his future value and what he will bring when he's entering his prime.

From a defensive standpoint, Tippett has never had a PDO greater than 1.000 in his career or had a On-Ice SV% greater than 0.910 in Philadelphia. You're also not going to pay Tippett to be some defensive juggernaut and to shut down the opposition. You want him to score goals. Did they have similar stats this year? Yeah. But I wouldn't say thats the only thing to consider for their value going forward

You shouldn't use PPG for comparison when the players don't play the same position, for the same amount of time, and include special teams production.

That's why I did 5v5 per 60 minutes, equal as possible. Imagine what Foegeles numbers would be if he got to play on the Oilers #1 power play.

Imagine if Tippett played on the Oilers let alone their power play. Foegele probably wouldn’t even hit 20 points on the Flyers lol

Foegele played in the bottom 6 mostly. Only 38% of his TOI last season was with McDavid and/or Draisaitl

That’s 38% more than Tippett lol. Tippett put up those numbers on the Flyers, Foegele puts up those numbers on the Oilers that’s brutal in comparison.

But who were Tippett's most common linemates and who were Foegeles if you want to do that comparison. It's not as simple as Oilers were better so all the players on the team should be better to explain.

5v5 the Oilers are not as good as they need to be and Foegele is one of the best current Oilers at it.
Foegele vs Nuge 5v5 You see how including PP production can change perception