I hate it.

i no like. 21 skaters sucks

Here we go again
Asking where Foegele's been
When you don't believe what Red Wings fans say

We can't go on Cap Friendly
With suspicious trades
We cannot take Foegele, Yamo or Ceci no way

I LOVE THESE TRADES!!!

LOVE 'EM

Pens take that and run

Philly trade is declined quite easily.
A capdump, mediocre prospect and a late 1st in 2 years doesn't sniff TK.

Petry won't go back to Edmonton or either Canada for that fact.

Since when is Foegele worth a 3rd? You'd be lucky to get a conditional 7th for him. Detroit passes big time.

Vic O for edmontons 2023 first? no? thats the equivalent of kulak for a second

@ jacobla

First, the Sabres need RHD, some team will give up a 2nd for Kulak just not the Sabres and not the 39th OA.

Godot10?

I'll echo sentiments above that NMC's absolutely come into play here with the Penguins trade: Petry essentially forced himself out of Montreal during the pandemic and has remained staunch about not being based in Canada for any length of time. If this were deadline 2025, one could make a case that the pure rental aspect of his next tour through the Great White North could be feasible.

I suspect you're a bit light on the returns going to the other teams. Edmonton's cap situation - like every other salary cap situation we've seen over the past three seasons now - is going to be preyed upon. If an acquiring team can only flip any of Foegele, Kulak, or Yamamoto at the deadline for the same kind of returns you're obtaining here, then those clubs are apt to decline the offer. The NHL is not a business where GMs look to break even on everyday trades. Those outcomes are reserved for the desperate or overdue moves (think Puljujarvi). Fair value for each player in this case is going to be roughly equal to a third to a quarter of the draft pick value being returned here. Thus, we're looking at:

- An early fifth round pick for Foegele.
- A late third round pick to early fourth round pick for Kulak.
- A late fourth round selection for Yamamoto.

You've properly captured the player values in your trades. I think Kulak to Buffalo is a whiff, as they already lay claim to 3 LHD as good, better, or projecting to be vastly superior than ol Brett from Stony. However, their value is going to be substantially diminished by where Edmonton's cap situation puts them. Anything higher than what is presented here is going to be resoundingly rejected, as you've seen above. This is a crucial detail that Lowetide misses during his own AGMing: he moves his extraneous pieces at market rate when the reality of the matter is far less appealing. Teams don't do other teams favours.

The price for Konecny likely starts with Holloway, Yamamoto, and the 2024 first rounder. I'd toss Berezkin in for merit given that his recent KHL extension makes him all but useless to the immediate Oilers. A then-retooled Flyers club will have more of an appetite to roster him.

I can see Holloway and a 1st but why would Briere want Yamo? Because they're the same size?

Ducks aren’t paying a 3rd for Yamamoto

Edmonton needs to move salary to accommodate the deal, and it's likely that scenario also has Philadelphia retaining some percentage of Konecny's cap hit.

Contrary to a lot of the verbiage around this forum, Foegele and Yamamoto aren't functionally useless hockey players. Both are third line forwards, Edmonton merely cannot afford them mostly in part to the horrendously inappropriate deal that Nurse was extended to. If the Flyers are indeed trading TK, this is the signal for a full-scale rebuild.

Unless the plan is to follow the same model used by Arizona, Buffalo, and Edmonton to no avail over the mid-2010s, you cannot gut a roster down to wood and expect the injected prospects to just drag a team to contention. They need NHL bodies to insulate players like Foerster or Brink such that kids clipping at less than a point-per-game pace in the minors aren't asked to all of a sudden eat 20 minutes of the NHL's best on a night-on basis. It took Edmonton almost seven years to the day to make the playoffs from when they drafted Taylor Hall. Buffalo has been rebuilding for 15 years. Arizona has played in more home arenas than they've made the playoffs over the last two decades.

Briere brings in Yamamoto because it's the more intelligent thing to do than just go pure futures for a live NHL body today.

Oilers add in bourgault and 24 first to wings trade