Canucks pass, we already have too many wingers

The Karlsson deal doesn't get made. Why would SJ ever give the 4OA? They are better off trading Karlsson for a 1st rounder and calling it a day. It's not like the Leafs are even taking the entirety of Karlsson's contract. It's like SJ is paying for the "luxury" of retaining 5.5M per year.

Canucks pass we aren't trading our best D prospect for another winger also that sharks deal is really really bad. like bad for even leaf fan standards

LOL the fact you think the sharks would trade the #4. And Robertson has no value. No one will save the leafs with stupid trades like these

I'm literally at a loss for words at how dumb some proposals on this site can be sometimes...

This allows you to deal the overpriced ones, as I said in the explanation.

Dude, that's some crazy weed you're smoking.

Well, there is *the entire f*cking package the Leafs are sending* and the fact that *despite months of trying Grier can't get anyone to bite* Quit being a one sided moron and actually assess the value before coming down with a blanket condemnation because you simply do not like Toronto.

I'm not convinced of that. I actually like Liljegren. He'll wear the Tre Kronor in the Olympics before all is said and done. I think a lot of people basically like to hammer on anything Leafs related on this site for reasons.

Again, do you not think you could recoup a good defensive prospect plus a better asset than that pick for either of Boeser or Garland? I certainly do.

I do not think they would just trade it on a whim no. But Liljegren two or three years from now is the Leafs #1 RHD and he'd still be an RFA. That alone is worth the 4OA. Ask Calgary what they'd want for Andersson. That's who Liljegren is at that age.

Jani doesn't have much either atm.

This, this is bad, especially the SJS trade.

I’d rather just keep Lauzon and the pick tbh

You do realize that the 4th OV is worth more than both of those 1sts+the 2nd, right? So, even if you say Karlsson at 6M is equal to Liljegren, the deal is still terrible for the Sharks.

I'm not being a one-sided moron, I'm not even a Sharks fan and who said I don't like Toronto? You are clearly undervaluing the 4th OV (even if you ignore the strong draft class aspect of things) and Karlsson @6M. I'm not trying to be rude, but in terms of value, this is probably the most lopsided trade that I have seen being proposed on here. If you don't believe me, have a look at a draft pick value chart.

Lol you can’t just pick a random right handed guy who’s actually good and say that’s what he will become . If he was more than a #4-5 guy he would’ve shown it by now. #4 pick is either smith carlson or mitchkov. Guys who will be stars, they don’t get traded for third paring D men. Hes 24. What you see is what you get. No one in an NHL front office thinks Lili will magically become a top pairing guy at 27 after he has already been unable to play top 4 for years. Honestly one of the worst trades I’ve seen on here

Let's say you're right. Why are the Sharks trading Karlsson @6M in this deal? If it was the full cap hit then, at least we can say value-wise, it's Karlsson for future considerations, and the package is for 4OV.

Canucks decline. We have too many wingers already.

The Reilly trade to Vegas is out to lunch. 4 picks including 3 in the first two rounds. Vegas isn't afraid of trading picks for players but they do it a lot wiser then that. Also no chance the sharks give up 4th overall. You're talking about giving up a franchise changing center like Leo Carlsson or Will Smith or generational winger in Michkov for Liljegren and a couple late first rounders. There is a lot of you in leafs land that think way too highly of Liljegren. No way he's enough as the centerpiece to get someone to give up 4th overall. If he was so amazing how does he end up in the press box so often including playoff games?

"The Leafs should trade Rielly for Boeser, then trade Nylander for a #1 LHD!" - The logic you're using.

See, the Canucks could just not do the trade in the first place, not lose their best defensive prospect, and trade a winger for another defensive prospect anyway.

I dont even know if the return on the sharks deal is enough to get the 4th overall not just in terms of value but the sharks need a game breaker way way way more than we need the type of player at the end of the first and a struggling 2nd pair defenseman (we have Mario), at basically half retention I think that return is good for karlsson, but certainly not karlsson +++++

We. Do. Not. Need. Wingers.

Stars easily accept