His development stalled once he went pro. He is a #1D in AHL and plays top minutes and PP1 time but once he goes NHL he's overmatched. He and Regula are still young and might still come around but they're looking more like bottom pairing Dmen on weak defensive depth teams to AHL call up guys on better teams with improved depth.
Clear win for Boston. They needed cap space and they were able to move 2x$6M without giving up anything other than the player carrying that cap hit. (Forget Foligno – he’s going to be a UFA if Chicago doesn’t sign him in the next few days.) In fact, they got back a couple of young fringe NHLers who may be of some use to them or their AHL team.
Less clear win for Chicago, but they got a guy who’s still a top-6 forward, at a cap hit they can easily afford for two years with no strings beyond that, for two unsigned RFAs that maybe they weren’t planning to qualify anyway. I suspect they’re hoping Hall can play on Bedard’s wing until they have somebody younger who can take that spot. That would be a bigger role than he had in Boston, but if he can handle it and aid in Bedard’s development, Davidson will look like a genius.
Boston got "worse" with this trade and Chicago got better. For me that's all I look at.
Yes Boston needs the cap space to try and extend other guys on the roster (Bertuzzi/Swayman) but that just maintains the status quo while their depth scoring just got worse.
How does teams like Calgary or Winnipeg expect to get any value back for their veterans players when players like Johansen and Hall are given away ?
It’s a bit of a different situation, because Winnipeg and Calgary aren’t trying to clear cap space, so they don’t actually have to trade them, and except for Blake Wheeler, those players are all providing good value for their cap hit now. Because they have only one year left on their contracts, there’s minimal risk to the team acquiring them, so I think they may still be able to get a mid-to-late 1st and a prospect for them as 1-year rentals, maybe even more if the team retains half their salary.
I’m not sure that’s what those teams want though, especially Calgary because they signed those big contracts last year to try to stay competitive in the short term. (I know that was a different GM, but you have to work with what you’ve been given.) They’ll have to get creative if they want to get back players of similar ability, but that’s the case in any market when you’re trying to deal a guy who’s only a year away from unrestricted free agency.
Interesting place to waive your NMC for...
Like this for the Hawks, Bedard gets a fellow 1st overall pick as a veteran mentor.
He had a NMC with a modified no-trade clause, not a full NMC. Per Chris Johnston, he did not waive to join Chicago, they were not on his no-trade list.
Chicago is a better spot for him than Boston. Boston is better for self-fulfillment because they are a perpetual contender and he might have had another shot at a Stanley Cup. Chicago is better for his career since he will be showcased as their top offensive weapon next to Bedard. It's unlikely he would have had the same kind of role in Boston. With a change of scenery and the kind of offensive roles open in Chicago, in a best case comeback story he might be able to play his way to another big 2-3 year extension. That was never going to happen in Boston. He'd probably see his minutes continue to fall, and by the time he is a UFA he would be in a similar position to a player like Kessel was the off season.
Lol and everyone saying that you have to trade a 1st plus to move a cap dump, clearly knows nothing. My predictions were right again. Haters going to hate.
Lol and everyone saying that you have to trade a 1st plus to move a cap dump, clearly knows nothing. My predictions were right again. Haters going to hate.
They're less valuable than Lindholm and Hanifin because of their age. That's not so much of an issue if you're acquiring them as pure rentals, but if you're looking for somebody you want to try to sign to an extension, you're going to want the younger guys so you won't be so reluctant to give them term. Hanifin is probably the most valuable of the bunch for that reason. He's 26 now, so even with an 8-year extension you'd only be committing to a few months after he turns 35. If Scheifele wants 8 years and a no-move clause, you've got him until he's 39, and with Toffoli, a 5-year extension takes you to his 37th birthday.
They're less valuable than Lindholm and Hanifin because of their age. That's not so much of an issue if you're acquiring them as pure rentals, but if you're looking for somebody you want to try to sign to an extension, you're going to want the younger guys so you won't be so reluctant to give them term. Hanifin is probably the most valuable of the bunch for that reason. He's 26 now, so even with an 8-year extension you'd only be committing to a few months after he turns 35. If Scheifele wants 8 years and a no-move clause, you've got him until he's 39, and with Toffoli, a 5-year extension takes you to his 37th birthday.
Oh for sure. The comparison was Scheifele and Tofoli to hall and Johansen.
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