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defending Danielson at 9

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Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2023
Published: Jun. 28, 2023
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What is Yzerman looking for in a C?

- Elite skating
-6’1 (185cm-186cm)
-200ft player
-20 goals, 40-50p

Apart from 1C, they are not expected to score 35+ goals every year. The wingers are much more relied upon for scoring.

The fact that Danielson is right handed, makes him a tactical advantage for faceoffs match ups.

I wouldn’t pick him at 9, but I get why they did it. Such a shame Leonard went at 8
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 9:18 p.m.
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      Bandwagon fairweathe
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      No need to defend yzerman, still playing playing chess not checkers, two great picks
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.
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      Switch him and ASP and no one bats an eye, it was a good pick at 9.
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 9:32 p.m.
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      Danielson will be a good 2/3C. I thought they would've went Moore. But not a bad pick
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 9:45 p.m.
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      Both players weren't on my list but they know more than me. I was taking Willander at 9.
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
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      2 words for ya pal Moritz Seider
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 9:52 p.m.
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      ASP is such an uncharacteristic pick by Yzerman. Only Hakan Anderson could talked him into taking 5’11 D. He will be a beast
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 9:55 p.m.
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      I hate the pick, I get it he's an yzerman type but Dvorsky and his upside was right there and we passed. I'd have liked Barlow at 17 but ASP is good value there I don't mind it.
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 9:55 p.m.
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      Quoting: mmccRed198913
      2 words for ya pal Moritz Seider


      hes going to score 30-40 goals? they are still missing goal scoring which last i checked wins hockey games. their two high picks addressed none of their issues. theyll be average at best the next 5 years.
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:27 p.m.
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      Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
      hes going to score 30-40 goals? they are still missing goal scoring which last i checked wins hockey games. their two high picks addressed none of their issues. theyll be average at best the next 5 years.


      Koskinen_The_DetroitHater is a better name for you tbh.
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:38 p.m.
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      There’s no need to defend Danielson at 9. I made a wings draft board a few days back and had Danielson behind only a few guys. Wings fans wanted him higher. I agreed. Was stoked to see him get selected at 9. Michkov, Leonard and Reinbacher would have been the only guys ahead that we had a shot at
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:38 p.m.
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      Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
      Koskinen_The_DetroitHater is a better name for you tbh.


      Did you see this quote by Bedard? It makes me feel ALOT better about the pick

      Connor Bedard said recently that Nate Danielson was the toughest center he played against in @TheWHL.
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:39 p.m.
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      Quoting: Jfstompers
      I hate the pick, I get it he's an yzerman type but Dvorsky and his upside was right there and we passed. I'd have liked Barlow at 17 but ASP is good value there I don't mind it.


      Dvorsky has so little upside. @me in 4 years if I’m wrong. Barlow however I did really like but asp makes sense
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:42 p.m.
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      Quoting: ggha777
      Danielson will be a good 2/3C. I thought they would've went Moore. But not a bad pick


      There’s a reason Moore dropped. Sub-par hockey iq and puck skills
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 11:05 p.m.
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      Quoting: buffbry
      Did you see this quote by Bedard? It makes me feel ALOT better about the pick

      Connor Bedard said recently that Nate Danielson was the toughest center he played against in TheWHL.


      If I’m chicago I go get danielson if he fell into their second picks range, starting the next wave with bedard and danielson. Danielson on mocks I saw as high as 7 and as low as out of the first, kind of a crazy year.
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      Jun. 28, 2023 at 11:10 p.m.
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      Danielson will be a good 2/3C. I thought they would've went Moore. But not a bad pick


      But Moore is Larkin with less production. I can't remember which scouting report said "Moore is an elite 2nd line player." and it made me laugh.
      Jun. 28, 2023 at 11:22 p.m.
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      Definitely a bit of a reach but is a safe pick. Seems like the kind of player that will definitely be an NHLer compared to other boom or bust prospects. Honestly was expecting him to be around at 17 unless the Canucks grabbed him (Canucks were high on him). Seems like the Canucks and Wings were in on the same players this draft
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      Jun. 29, 2023 at 12:20 a.m.
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      Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
      hes going to score 30-40 goals? they are still missing goal scoring which last i checked wins hockey games. their two high picks addressed none of their issues. theyll be average at best the next 5 years.


      Yzerman wanted to get tougher and add scoring. I think they addressed both just not in they way you'd expect. Obviously it takes more than 2 players to fully address those needs. Danielson is a big tough forward and ASP while being completely different from Yzerman's norm he is the type of Dman that will generate a lot of offense. He probably won't score 30 or 40 goals but right around 20 goals consistently.

      You don't get the high end goal scorer Detroit needs with the 9th pick. Maybe a player or 2 taken after the 9th pick end up being a true goal scorer but those players come with a lot more risk. Danielson is a safe pick and with Detroit's lottery luck can they really afford to take big risks. Since the 2016-17 Detroit has had the fewest wins and the most losses and despite being the worst over that stretch they have picked 9th, 8th, 6th, 4th, 6th, 6th and 9th in that order. Since the 2010 season Edmonton has had 5 #1OA picks and a 3rdOA and Detroit's last top 3 pick was in 1990.

      What's with all the hostility?

      It's more than obvious that you posted in this ACGM just to pick a fight or do you treat everyone like this?

      But I do have to say an Edmonton fan critiquing someone is draft is quite funny
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      Jun. 29, 2023 at 6:09 a.m.
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      Did you see this quote by Bedard? It makes me feel ALOT better about the pick

      Connor Bedard said recently that Nate Danielson was the toughest center he played against in TheWHL.


      It is funny how wrong he is, though. Nate Danielson is a bet an upside (admittedly was screaming for Dvorsky or Benson and still would've preferred him), but he's what, our 3rd or 4th right shooting forward not name Perron? Can't build a team with only left shots.

      And then ASP; he's a right shot D-Man, which we need, and he brings a lot of offensive talent, which we need.
      Jun. 29, 2023 at 6:11 a.m.
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      Yzerman wanted to get tougher and add scoring. I think they addressed both just not in they way you'd expect. Obviously it takes more than 2 players to fully address those needs. Danielson is a big tough forward and ASP while being completely different from Yzerman's norm he is the type of Dman that will generate a lot of offense. He probably won't score 30 or 40 goals but right around 20 goals consistently.

      You don't get the high end goal scorer Detroit needs with the 9th pick. Maybe a player or 2 taken after the 9th pick end up being a true goal scorer but those players come with a lot more risk. Danielson is a safe pick and with Detroit's lottery luck can they really afford to take big risks. Since the 2016-17 Detroit has had the fewest wins and the most losses and despite being the worst over that stretch they have picked 9th, 8th, 6th, 4th, 6th, 6th and 9th in that order. Since the 2010 season Edmonton has had 5 #1OA picks and a 3rdOA and Detroit's last top 3 pick was in 1990.

      What's with all the hostility?

      It's more than obvious that you posted in this ACGM just to pick a fight or do you treat everyone like this?

      But I do have to say an Edmonton fan critiquing someone is draft is quite funny


      Bros just mad Kenny Holland is destroying his team
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      Jun. 29, 2023 at 6:33 a.m.
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      It is funny how wrong he is, though. Nate Danielson is a bet an upside (admittedly was screaming for Dvorsky or Benson and still would've preferred him), but he's what, our 3rd or 4th right shooting forward not name Perron? Can't build a team with only left shots.

      And then ASP; he's a right shot D-Man, which we need, and he brings a lot of offensive talent, which we need.


      I hated the pick and now watched a ton of highlights and read a lot more about him and no longer hate the pick. Just wish wings fans would understand and be patient.
      Jun. 29, 2023 at 8:02 a.m.
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      I hated the pick and now watched a ton of highlights and read a lot more about him and no longer hate the pick. Just wish wings fans would understand and be patient.


      Don't get me wrong; I'm not the biggest fan of it tbh.
      But I understand why. Looks like Yzerman wants to build a hockey team that plays all four lines.
      Jun. 29, 2023 at 9:23 a.m.
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      Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
      Don't get me wrong; I'm not the biggest fan of it tbh.
      But I understand why. Looks like Yzerman wants to build a hockey team that plays all four lines.


      https://youtu.be/0lNavT_iOxk go to 20 seconds in and tell me that move wasn't insane through 4 people. The more I see him the more I like like him
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      Jun. 29, 2023 at 10:34 a.m.
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      Bros just mad Kenny Holland is destroying his team


      The irony is certainly lost on you after Holland actually did destroy the Wings with no cap space and no prospects in the top75 when he left in 2019 so yeah thats some take! LOL I'm not mad. Just in awe.

      Oilers didnt pass on 2 elite players 2 years in a row but have the best two players in the sport

      Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
      Koskinen_The_DetroitHater is a better name for you tbh.


      Wings pass two years in a row on Matthew Savoie and Zach Benson, teammates from WHL, I might add, these two are exactly the type of players Detroit should target. Buffalos Adam's has owned Yzerman these past 2 drafts. Detroit is far behind the rebuilds of the Sens, Sabres.
      Jun. 29, 2023 at 10:37 a.m.
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      Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
      The irony is certainly lost on you after Holland actually did destroy the Wings with no cap space and no prospects in the top75 when he left in 2019 so yeah thats some take! LOL I'm not mad. Just in awe.

      Oilers didnt pass on 2 elite players 2 years in a row but have the best two players in the sport



      Wings pass two years in a row on Matthew Savoie and Zach Benson, teammates from WHL, I might add, these two are exactly the type of players Detroit should target. Buffalo's Adam's has owned Yzerman these past 2 drafts. Detroit is far behind the rebuilds of the Sens, Sabres.


      I am well aware that Holland destroyed Detroit, hence why I'm not crying about the length of the rebuild; you're doing the complaining for me (for some reason lmfao).

      I'd rather have Kasper than Savoie, not really a hot take either. I'd prefer Benson over Danielson, though.

      It sure does help a rebuild when you're given lottery luck and a prospect pool that contains more than Berggren.
      Jun. 29, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
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      https://youtu.be/0lNavT_iOxk go to 20 seconds in and tell me that move wasn't insane through 4 people. The more I see him the more I like like him


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