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Created by: TheDuminator

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 17, 2023

Published: Jul. 17, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

MTL

Raymond, Lucas

DET

Barron, Justin
Farrell, Sean
Hoffman, Mike ($2,250,000 retained)
2025 2nd round pick (MTL)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Joel Edmundson: $1,750,000 (50%)
Mike Hoffman: $2,250,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$83,500,000	$72,334,166	$1,170,000	$6,435,000	$11,165,834

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 1
Newhook, Alex $2,900,000$2,900,000 C, LW RFA - 4	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Monahan, Sean $1,985,000$1,985,000 ($15,000$15K) C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2
	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3

Jul. 17, 2023 at 11:15 a.m.

Gmonwy

GO FLAMES GO

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Other fans thinking they can get him when they can't. (Not a Detroit fan, just my two cents)

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.

habslife

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Lol quantité pour de la qualité.

Jul. 17, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.

MoreHitzSeider

Seiders on the Storm

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It's the same Raymond hating lunatic making these ridiculous trade proposals. Raymond isn't going anywhere.

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.

goodfella

Grierless Sharks Fan

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

It's the same Raymond hating lunatic making these ridiculous trade proposals. Raymond isn't going anywhere.

He only had 57 points his rookie season!

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.

AquaticOwl

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

It's the same Raymond hating lunatic making these ridiculous trade proposals. Raymond isn't going anywhere.

I think everyone knows Raymond isn't going anywhere. That's not even the problem I have with these proposals. It's that they're all Raymond + multiple picks and prospects for a player that's older and less valuable than Raymond in a 1 for 1 trade.

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.

TheDuminator

Thread Starter

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Quoting: AquaticOwl

Don't take me wrong... I wouldn't trade Raymond but I was trying to understand why many Detroit fans trade him out?

Jul. 17, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.

buffbry

Buffbry

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Quoting: TheDuminator

Don't take me wrong... I wouldn't trade Raymond but I was trying to understand why many Detroit fans trade him out?

We aren't trading him out, it's other fans doing it

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.

mikearky

arky

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Quoting: TheDuminator

Don't take me wrong... I wouldn't trade Raymond but I was trying to understand why many Detroit fans trade him out?

It is not many Wings's fans but one Wing's fan, who values the likes of other less talented players. He is ridiculous and and trolls Wing's fans

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

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Quoting: TheDuminator

Don't take me wrong... I wouldn't trade Raymond but I was trying to understand why many Detroit fans trade him out?

There aren't that many; they're just loud and/or trolls.

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.

#10

Lancebmx

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Quoting: AquaticOwl

I'm guessing it's the one guy I have blocked cause I haven't seen any of these lol

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.

#11

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

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Quoting: Lancebmx

I'm guessing it's the one guy I have blocked cause I haven't seen any of these lol

NHLLGRW. There's like no Red Wings fans to call his bs since we're all ignoring him.

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.

#12

MoreHitzSeider

Seiders on the Storm

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Quoting: goodfella

He only had 57 points his rookie season!

Bust

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.

#13

Spaceman

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The Lucas Raymond trades are 100% NHLLGRW's fault. It's a troll account who claims to be the biggest Red Wings fan of all time but in the same breath trades Raymond, Veleno, Kasper and a 1st for Konecny. He gets very upset when you tell him his trades are dumb and throws a tantrum and then blocks you.

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 1:14 p.m.

#14

aedoran

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MONKEY SEE! MONKEY DOO!

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 1:16 p.m.

#15

aedoran

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Quoting: aedoran

MONKEY SEE! MONKEY DOO!

Someone else i doing it. I should too.

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.

#16

aedoran

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Quoting: TheDuminator

Don't take me wrong... I wouldn't trade Raymond but I was trying to understand why many Detroit fans trade him out?

Can you list the MANY Detroit fans that have done this?

Jul. 17, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.

#17

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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Quoting: goodfella

He only had 57 points his rookie season!

Which is 47 more points than Slafkovsky who's supposedly better.

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.

#18

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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A bunch of lame scraps doesn't get Raymond.

Jul. 17, 2023 at 3:30 p.m.

#19

Lancebmx

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

NHLLGRW. There's like no Red Wings fans to call his bs since we're all ignoring him.

I knew it lol

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.

#20

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

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Quoting: Lancebmx

I knew it lol

I'm just assuming. I thought he stopped his act but I guess he's still going.

Jul. 17, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.

#21

AmeriCanadian

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

I'm just assuming. I thought he stopped his act but I guess he's still going.

He's still going... I really need to block the guy, he's so obnoxious

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.

#22

AmeriCanadian

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Quoting: TheDuminator

Don't take me wrong... I wouldn't trade Raymond but I was trying to understand why many Detroit fans trade him out?

It's essentially this one guy named NHLLGRW who absolutely despises the kid for being soft, you'll notice he's always traded for someone like Jeannot, Trenin, or if he's feeling any modicum of reasonable it'll be Konecny.

The vast majority of us like Raymond and know it would be moronic to trade him. He's not going anywhere

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Jul. 17, 2023 at 4:44 p.m.

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goodfella

Grierless Sharks Fan

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Quoting: MoSeider53

Which is 47 more points than Slafkovsky who's supposedly better.

Infinitely better, apparently.

Jul. 17, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.

#24

Spaceman

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

I'm just assuming. I thought he stopped his act but I guess he's still going.

Oh he's still going. His latest masterpieces:

Raymond, Fabbri and Perron (50% RETAINED) to St. Louis for Colton Parayko
Raymond, Soderblom, Buchelnikov and Buium to Philly for Konecny

My all time fav was Lucas Raymond to Nashville for Yakov Trenin. Straight up 1 for 1. I told him how stupid this was and he argued that the Wings might actually need to add a pick to sweeten the deal for Nashville haha.

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Jul. 18, 2023 at 6:27 a.m.

#25

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

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Quoting: Spaceman

I think he ignored me. I kept calling him a cruddy troll. Got him mad and, on one of the few posts I made, he started calling me a troll. Kinda funny.

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