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Just for A Laf

Created by: exo2769
Team: 2023-24 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 20, 2023
Published: Jul. 20, 2023
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Nothing serious. Just trying to look at what the Rangers need vs what Bob Ellis wrote about.
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  1. Lafrenière, Alexis [RFA Rights]
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Just exploring what a trade might look like. I see the posts about Bob Ellis's article, but I think he's missing it. the NYR have Othmann and Sykora that are pretty darn good in their own right. The Rangers need more defensive prospects. It's ironically what the Hawks have the most of too. AND some of these Dprospects aren't KD's guys. They're Bowman's guys...so it might not be as hard for KD to part with them as WE as fans might think.

Also, the NYR need LD prospects specifically. Fox/Trouba/Schneider aren't going anywhere. Obviously neither is Miller, but he's 1 guy on the left.
NYR
  1. Allan, Nolan
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TBL)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (LAK)
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LHD prospect of their choice sans Korchinski
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23$83,500,000$66,076,791$0$5,637,500$17,423,209
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Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:20 p.m.
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If Bob Ellis said it's true, it must be. He is THE Bob Ellis.
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Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:21 p.m.
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If that brings back Laf and the Habs didn't offer better I'm gonna cry.
Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:21 p.m.
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Allan isn’t really needed. Would prefer the Reichel + 1st trade if CHI would do it.

Personally don’t think it’s realistic
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Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Allan isn’t really needed. Would prefer the Reichel + 1st trade if CHI would do it.

Personally don’t think it’s realistic


Can you expand on this a bit more? I'm confused as to why the Rangers would prefer a prospect that while is good...you've got good LWers already. Is Othmann not any good in your mind? What's the best D prospect in the Rangers system?
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Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:23 p.m.
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This looks about right. I think I'd offer NYR the Tampa 1st and LHD prospect of their choice sans Korchinski
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Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
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Quoting: newman23
This looks about right. I think I'd offer NYR the Tampa 1st and LHD prospect of their choice sans Korchinski


I probably should have inserted this exact sentence on the Hawks side of the trade. I inserted Allan really as a place holder.
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Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.
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You are better off with a $4m offersheet for just a 2nd. Rangers would be in a massive bind.
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Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.
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Hawks aren't giving up Nolan Allan AND 2 draft picks for underachieving Lafrenierre.
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Jul. 20, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.
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It's gonna take a lot more than that to get Laf cause the Rangers aren't interested in trading him. Throw in Nazar or Reichel and you'll have their attention. Otherwise they don't have a reason to trade him.

You can say that it's not fair value and of course it isn't, but if you want someone a team isn't shopping you're gonna have to overpay.

Also you're wrong that NYR need LD prospects. They have Jones and Robertson in their pipeline. They don't need RD prospects either.
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Jul. 20, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
Can you expand on this a bit more? I'm confused as to why the Rangers would prefer a prospect that while is good...you're got good LWers already. Is Othmann not any good in your mind? What's the best D prospect in the Rangers system?


Rangers are already letting Jones and Robertson sit in Hartford due to their D depth already. Allan would suffer that same fate
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Can you expand on this a bit more? I'm confused as to why the Rangers would prefer a prospect that while is good...you've got good LWers already. Is Othmann not any good in your mind? What's the best D prospect in the Rangers system?


Rangers are already letting Robertson and Jones (top 2 D prospects for NYR) sit in the minors and not play for the likes of Gustafson, Nemeth, Mikkola, etc. Getting Allan would be just adding to that logjam and wouldn’t help this team. If we’re trading lafreniere we need a piece with high end potential like a Reichel who would simply replace Lafreniere and get a potential top 20 pick is pretty much the best they can get for Laf.

As for the LW logjam, Othmann likely plays RW anyway so this would work. Rangers would also have to trade one of Kreider or Panarin down the line for cap issues regardless so it certainly fits imo.
Jul. 20, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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Can you expand on this a bit more? I'm confused as to why the Rangers would prefer a prospect that while is good...you've got good LWers already. Is Othmann not any good in your mind? What's the best D prospect in the Rangers system?


Rangers need centers or right wingers

They have Jones, Robertson and even Emberson looks decent in the AHL. If Jones doesn’t beat out Gustaffson then they’ll probably trade him for a pick or waiver exempt player

Kandre and Lindgren are their top 2 LD so they don’t need to trade Laffy to find a bottom pair defenseman
Jul. 20, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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Quoting: GoofyFoFoofy
It's gonna take a lot more than that to get Laf cause the Rangers aren't interested in trading him. Throw in Nazar or Reichel and you'll have their attention. Otherwise they don't have a reason to trade him.

You can say that it's not fair value and of course it isn't, but if you want someone a team isn't shopping you're gonna have to overpay.

Also you're wrong that NYR need LD prospects. They have Jones and Robertson in their pipeline. They don't need RD prospects either.




What would you do as NYR if CHI offersheeted Laf for $4.2m?
Jul. 20, 2023 at 1:08 p.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
What would you do as NYR if CHI offersheeted Laf for $4.2m?


I wouldn't let him go for a 2nd. I'd find a team to dump Goodrow too, even if it costs a 1st to dump him. Then match.

At the end of the day though offer sheets are very rare and if he is offer sheeted I don't expect it to be for less than 5m.
Jul. 20, 2023 at 1:35 p.m.
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Drury says NOPE. And you're forgetting a guy named Lindgren on LD. Rangers are fine defensively, they need RW's.
Jul. 20, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.
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I am just not THIS big of a fan of Laf. Pass for this Hawk fan and don't try to take a short cut in rebuilding...use those picks instead and keep building.

I would see if you could get a 3 or 4 year deal at 4.2 on an offersheet though as I am still a little miffed at the return paid for Kane and would like to return the over a barrel favor to the NYR's.
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Jul. 20, 2023 at 2:11 p.m.
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Quoting: wojohawk
I am just not THIS big of a fan of Laf. Pass for this Hawk fan and don't try to take a short cut in rebuilding...use those picks instead and keep building.

I would see if you could get a 3 or 4 year deal at 4.2 on an offersheet though as I am still a little miffed at the return paid for Kane and would like to return the over a barrel favor to the NYR's.


Oh, I'm very miffed at the NYR taking advantage of us too. Drury deserves an offer sheet of Laf FOR SURE.
 
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