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Would Petry Waive to Buffalo

Created by: Hockyluv21
Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 22, 2023
Published: Jul. 22, 2023
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I sort of think that with Buffalo on the cusp of being a playoff team, Petry would waive his NTC to Buffalo. I wonder if this is a potential way for them to net extra draft picks.
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  1. Petry, Jeff
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
  3. 2026 2nd round pick (PIT)
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  1. Lyubushkin, Ilya
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (BUF)
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 1:11 a.m.
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Good thought on the trade. Don't think the picks are a big attraction to the Sabres. It's whether the Sabres think Petry is good value at 6.25m for the next two years.
Jul. 22, 2023 at 1:13 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Good thought on the trade. Don't think the picks are a big attraction to the Sabres. It's whether the Sabres think Petry is good value at 6.25m for the next two years.


theyre super careful about giving any term to anyone over 30. They overpaid their entire 4th line and EJ simply to avoid to an extra year on any of their deals. Doubt theyd want to take on petry at 6.25 with an extra year attached.
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 1:17 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Good thought on the trade. Don't think the picks are a big attraction to the Sabres. It's whether the Sabres think Petry is good value at 6.25m for the next two years.


I think that it's far more about the sweeteners than contract value. Petry isn't awful by any means and he's a great veteran influence, but his contract currently is an overpay. Buffalo is getting close but, similar to a team like Detroit, isn't quite a playoff team yet, so the draft picks should be a nice way to boost their capital.
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 1:18 a.m.
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Doesn’t matter if he would or wouldn’t
He’s (Petry) not a guy we’d even remotely consider imo
Jul. 22, 2023 at 1:19 a.m.
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theyre super careful about giving any term to anyone over 30. They overpaid their entire 4th line and EJ simply to avoid to an extra year on any of their deals. Doubt theyd want to take on petry at 6.25 with an extra year attached.


It's different when it comes to UFAs versus being paid to take on a contract. The two seconds have significant value.
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 1:22 a.m.
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Doesn’t matter if he would or wouldn’t
He’s (Petry) not a guy we’d even remotely consider imo


I bet the tone would change drastically if a first was offered to take on Petry. The Sabres would be fools not to take that.
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 1:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
I think that it's far more about the sweeteners than contract value. Petry isn't awful by any means and he's a great veteran influence, but his contract currently is an overpay. Buffalo is getting close but, similar to a team like Detroit, isn't quite a playoff team yet, so the draft picks should be a nice way to boost their capital.


Taking petry off Pittsburgh hands opens the door for Pittsburgh a team Buffalo will be battle for a wild card spot to improve their team. picks me nothing to the Sabres considering how many draft picks they have made since 2021.
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 1:27 a.m.
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I bet the tone would change drastically if a first was offered to take on Petry. The Sabres would be fools not to take that.


Maybe, but 2 things:
1- i don’t think we have ANY interest in Petry as a player
2- don’t see us helping PIT with their Cap issues, especially since we’ll be competing against them for a WC spot


I do think PIT could get ARZ (or someone like that) to take Petry for a 1st- but would Petry waive? Tough to say
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 1:35 a.m.
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It's different when it comes to UFAs versus being paid to take on a contract. The two seconds have significant value.


Not for Adams. Yeah if you let him rob you, he'd do it. But at this point 2nd rounders in 2024 and 2026(!) are just guys who will be here when adams is likely done as GM. It doesnt really help him or the Sabres.
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 2:36 a.m.
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Other than the fact of him waiving, or helping a rival team, I think one of the bigger issues is the cap for next year. They have alot but don't have alot of players signed, plus big extensions for Dahlin and Power. I don't think they are in a position to commit that much cap to next season until they have some other deals done to see where they are at. Right now it shows 40M with 9 players signed. Dahlin and Power likely eat around 15M of that. That leaves about 25M for another 10+ players or so, doesn't take long to spend that.
Jul. 22, 2023 at 4:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Other than the fact of him waiving, or helping a rival team, I think one of the bigger issues is the cap for next year. They have alot but don't have alot of players signed, plus big extensions for Dahlin and Power. I don't think they are in a position to commit that much cap to next season until they have some other deals done to see where they are at. Right now it shows 40M with 9 players signed. Dahlin and Power likely eat around 15M of that. That leaves about 25M for another 10+ players or so, doesn't take long to spend that.


Rival team?! That's a new one to me.
Jul. 22, 2023 at 4:29 a.m.
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I think Petry would most like accept a trade to Buffalo, I don't think Buffalo would be on his NTC given how close he'd be to his family.

What it comes down to would be what are the penguins able to do with Granlund, Rutta and probably DeSmith to then create the adequate space for Karlsson AND what would SJS be retaining. If those numbers work out then taking Lyubushkin is fine.
Jul. 22, 2023 at 7:00 a.m.
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Sabres already did address the issues on right side of defense.
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 9:52 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Good thought on the trade...
Quoting: Stadel
... They overpaid their entire 4th line and EJ simply to avoid to an extra year on any of their deals...
Quoting: Hockyluv21
... Petry isn't awful by any means and he's a great veteran influence, but his contract currently is an overpay...
Quoting: BUF10
Taking petry off Pittsburgh hands opens the door for Pittsburgh a team Buffalo will be battle for a wild card spot to improve their team...
Quoting: Lancebmx
... I think one of the bigger issues is the cap for next year...
Quoting: pens1991
I think Petry would most like accept a trade to Buffalo...
Quoting: Czu8iks
Sabres already did address the issues on right side of defense.

First, Very lively conversation with excellent POV.
@Czu8iks nailed it, we have our RHD and for the first time in forever have balance with 4 LHD and 4 RHD.
Petry would have been an ideal RHD addition. He hits, blocks shots, eats minutes, PK's, PP's and can score, but we now have Johnson in that spot.
Second, Buffalo could use the picks as trading chips in future TDL's, so they could have significant value.
Third, Actually cap will not be an issue in 2024-'25, it the following year after Petry's contract expires.
Check out this team, https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4452419 the following year (2025-'26) when Quinn, Peterka, Johnson and Levi will want to get their raises after their ELC;s expire some difficult decisions will have to be made.
Finally, since the Penguins seem to be interested with Karlsson, Petry may be part of the trade so the Sharks do not need to retain as much salary.
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.
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Rival team?! That's a new one to me.


They will both be competing for a wild card spot, I wouldn't say like big rivals. Just more stating above comments.
Jul. 22, 2023 at 12:02 p.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
First, Very lively conversation with excellent POV.
Czu8iks nailed it, we have our RHD and for the first time in forever have balance with 4 LHD and 4 RHD.
Petry would have been an ideal RHD addition. He hits, blocks shots, eats minutes, PK's, PP's and can score, but we now have Johnson in that spot.
Second, Buffalo could use the picks as trading chips in future TDL's, so they could have significant value.
Third, Actually cap will not be an issue in 2024-'25, it the following year after Petry's contract expires.
Check out this team, https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4452419 the following year (2025-'26) when Quinn, Peterka, Johnson and Levi will want to get their raises after their ELC;s expire some difficult decisions will have to be made.
Finally, since the Penguins seem to be interested with Karlsson, Petry may be part of the trade so the Sharks do not need to retain as much salary.


You kind of supported my argument about the cap in a way. You traded away 4.5M and had 9M in cap space. There are 5 players that are probably rookies on that team next year, could be more if they don't play much this year. If you don't trade away that 4.5M and add Petry's 6.25M, this team is over the cap. Also good chance they don't have 5 rookies break into the season next year and they might sign one or two UFAs.
 
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