We saw it with Bertuzzi on CFACGM. It seemed like everyone wanted him on their team. First line even. But then they'd point out his flaws to justify giving up nothing for him. And use the fact he was a rental as an excuse to lowball. Hehe

Not sure what you mean by me being jealous but whatever

And Bouchard may not be the best defensively, but he’s decent and not a one dimensional player like Rielly, Karlsson, Barrie, Caufield, Ovechkin, Kane, etc. If you wanted Bouchard you’d have to make a much better offer, as a contending team like Edmonton wouldn’t want picks, bad RHDs like Savard, or prospects with off ice issues like Mailloux

Also yes, Mailloux is a PR nightmare. No team wants to acquire him and deal with the negative media he’d bring

He would be 2.3 million and that price for a 30-40 point RHD will have value. He has a 15 no trade list, so Habs have plenty of leverage. Overall, Petry will still have value and RHD are always a needed commodity around the league

This trade retains only 1mil not the full 50%. MAYBE at 50% retained he gets a return but even at 50% its not getting the return offered in this ACGM.

The amount of times I have seen people say "This player has value at whatever retention" and then the return is 0 with that retention this summer has been often. Taylor Hall got NOTHING, Hayes (Flyers fans were saying him at 50% retained should get them a 2nd at the least) Hayes returned a 6th LMAO. Petry will not yield any return.

I'll preface by saying there's almost no world where I trade Bouchard. However, if I'm to entertain the idea, you'd have to change that pick to the '24 1st and swap out Mailloux for Barron as he better fits the timeline and doesn't come with the off-ice baggage. I'd also need a quality prospect; wouldn't have to be a top-end one, but someone of substance.

He's a bum like his father.

Come on now you know that's the CapFriendly way.

Except he completely missed the point. That would be tunnel vision to a T. The biggest clue was seeing that he doesnt even make the top6 in this lineup.
Petry is going for a 3rd. Boqvist isnt close to a top4 defenceman despite the biased narratives here that Petry is somehow worthless despite being a much more heavily used and trusted defenceman.

Mailloux is a better prospect. The upside is higher. Barron tops out as 4-5th depth charts puck mover. Im not going to talk like a CBJ fan that thinks Boqvist despite never proving it is somehow a top4 D. Barron is questionable at best. The off ice baggage isnt a thing. He has a contract and will be cleared. He's already bigger than Barron and is more physical. I'd argue he's much better fit for the OIlers. Mailloux shot is actually right there with Bouchard probably harder than the Bouch bomb!

Petry has been on the trading block for 2 consecutive off seasons and only Pittsburgh was willing to give him a try and when the season end he was right back on the trading block. If he is so great how come no one wants him?

lmao use a calculator. Does every retort have to be some kind of false equivalency easily disproven here. That is the capfriendly way.

Not really I was simply responding to his comment.

What is wrong with my statement it is 100% accurate!

Not one CBJ fan realized this is the 2024-25 season which means Petry has a year left nor that Boqvist didnt even make the lineup. I dont know how benching a player but only trading to make the salary work in the exchange means Im negging but you do you.

The lack of awareness is truly awe inspiring.

Okay, I'll pretend for a second that you're making any of your arguments in good faith, even though we both know you're not. In 24-25, the Jackets will have Severson, Jiricek, and Peeke on the right, and Werenski, Mateychuk, and whomever on the left. Where, exactly, does 37yo Petry fit there? Who cares where you did or didn't stick Boqvist on your own attempt at the Habs roster? There's two teams in the trade, and the other team declines because Petry has no role with them in the current season or a future one. Petry might have value to a team that needs RD, but what we're trying to get through to you is that Columbus IS NOT THAT TEAM. Quit trolling and read a post.

Let's imagine a world where trades can happen and players like Severson and Provorov were traded to help a horrifically awful defensive team but that wouldnt fit your biased narrative that the Jackets now have the most complete blue line in the league. Like I said awe inspiring naïveté from the same people that cant put two unbiased thoughts together while typing. i didnt make these ridiculous arguments that "Petry has 2 years left?" That "Boqvist is a top4 D" Theres only so many wrong takes I can correctly assess. Read the post is what you people do but you cant comprehend anything.

Boston was in a cap pinch and Torts hated Hayes and openly wanted him gone. Habs aren't in either of those situations.

No one wants him at 6.25...... which he isn't at anymore. And even then, he was on the block until they found the right trade for him, he wasn't forced out with no return coming back and Habs likely have no problem keeping him until he can give them another return, even if they have to retain and bring him down to a 2.35 cap hit

He cant even figure out that this ACGM is from 2024-25. Petry has a 1 year left. Its looking more and more like hes a TDL or next offseason move. The guy completely ignores that bad money is coming back with Boqvist whos a 3rd pair at best replacement level defender. Hayes is a forward, with more term and had no money come back in the deal. It's illogical nonsense from these homers to compare Petry to Hayes here.

Apologies for not seeing the year but you don't have to be an absolute **** about it. Petry will not get anything close to the return posted here unless Boqvist has another injury filled season. If he again plays 50+ games and does well on the PP2 unit there is no way he gets moved for a player similar to Petry.

Cap is and will still be a struggle next off season. Petry gets paid too much and unless you retain 50% the return he will get is a 3rd rounder max. If you retain 50% at next seasons (2024-2025) deadline when some teams may have cap space due to LTIR and a need for a 3RD you may be able to get more for him but your value of him is currently too high.

Boqvist is not an "at best replacement defender" LMFAO

I thought Petry requested the trade. To get him down to a cap hit of $2.35M will require a 3rd team since a team is only allowed to retain 50% of a players cap hit. If you find a 3rd team to retain they aren't going to do it for free. So why waste draft capitol to move Petry. Especially when an RHD was a team need.

Pitt retained a percentage, Habs have him at 4.9 million, that retained by 50% brings him to 2.45. I typed 2.35 by accident but the point remains, Petry at 2.45 is easily to move.

And Petry wanted a trade out of Canada because of COVID restrictions that are now gone, so if they want to keep him and play him I'm sure he would be fine with it

I didn't realize Pittsburgh retained thats my bad and I apologize.

And the NHL didn't announce there would no COVID restrictions until after he was traded.

I already said this to you when you were in the Petry to Motor City thread. Funny for people not to see the value in Petry when $ is retained. I had to leave the thread. These guys were hurting my head too much.