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Created by: hockeynutter

Team: 2023-24 Winnipeg Jets

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 15, 2023

Published: Aug. 15, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

If both schiefele and hellebuyck absolutely won't resign and Winnipeg is now forced into a rebuild. These two trades can help kick start a retool. The wingers will still be strong. Swayman can become a new Hellebuyck for them. They would be needing a first line center though. Either through draft or an Ehlers plus trade may be able to bring the potential over. Either way this could be a good start. Montreal clears Dvorak salary and gets a good goalie for them with rebuild. Boston gets a replacement for schiefele with a hefty price but they could really use the first line center.

Trades

WPG

Gallagher, Ty [Reserve List]
Lysell, Fabian
Swayman, Jeremy
2025 1st round pick (BOS)
2026 2nd round pick (BOS)

Additional Details:

2026 second round pick turns to a first if Boston wins the cup within next 2 years.

BOS

Scheifele, Mark
2024 4th round pick (WPG)

Additional Details:

Winnipeg pick moves up to a 3rd round if Winnipeg reaches second round of playoffs.

WPG

Dvorak, Christian
2025 3rd round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

3rd round pick upgrades to 2nd round pick if hellebuyck resigns with montreal

MTL

Hellebuyck, Connor

Buyouts

Blake Wheeler: $2,750,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$77,217,024	$0	$850,000	$6,282,976

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Connor, Kyle $7,142,857$7,142,857 LW UFA - 3	Lowry, Adam $3,250,000$3,250,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Ehlers, Nikolaj $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Iafallo, Alex $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Vilardi, Gabriel $3,437,500$3,437,500 RW, C RFA - 2
Niederreiter, Nino $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kupari, Rasmus $1,000,000$1,000,000 C, LW, RW RFA - 2	Lysell, Fabian $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 3
Jonsson-Fjällby, Axel $775,000$775,000 LW UFA - 2	Namestnikov, Vladislav $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 2	Appleton, Mason $2,166,667$2,166,667 RW UFA - 2
Gustafsson, David $775,000$775,000 LW, C RFA - 1		Barron, Morgan $1,350,000$1,350,000 LW, RW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Morrissey, Joshua $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Pionk, Neal $5,875,000$5,875,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Swayman, Jeremy $3,475,000$3,475,000 G RFA - 1
Schmidt, Nate $5,950,000$5,950,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	DeMelo, Dylan $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Brossoit, Laurent $1,750,000$1,750,000 G UFA - 1
Dillon, Brenden $3,900,000$3,900,000 LD UFA - 1
Samberg, Dylan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD RFA - 2
Capobianco, Kyle $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Perfetti, Cole $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) LW, C RFA - 1

Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.

jpetes250

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There's no way Boston does that.

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Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.

GeneralLandro

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The Boston trade is hilarious man😂

You’re over value here like 450%

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Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.

CJets

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Hellebuyck is worth WAY more than that

Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:04 p.m.

NDoody

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

The Boston trade is hilarious man😂

You’re over value here like 450%

I belive Schefille ends up in Boston with their lack of centers right now, but this isn't the trade.

Also, Hellubuck has said he wants to be back in the US so he isn't going to Montreal.

Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.

beantownboy17

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Massive overpay for Schieffle, and Lindholm is preferred over him. I still think the Bruins stand pat and play out the year with their 2 star goalies so it's gonna be tough to make a deal for a real #1 center

Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.

NDoody

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Quoting: CJets

Hellebuyck is worth WAY more than that

Unfortunately for Jets fans, his age and the fact his actual cash due this year in 7.5 M and the team is letting him have choices in where he gets moved is going to lead to a lower trade return for Hellebuyck

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Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.

hockeynutter

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

The Boston trade is hilarious man😂

You’re over value here like 450%

I was going from a Sportsnet article that had both a first round pick,lysell and swayman as a starting point for a trade. Of course Winnipeg may need to add pieces as adding swayman increases the value for Winnipeg's favour but it is also part of cutting salary on Boston's end to afford schiefele and schiefele resigning. Any trade takes a starting point and Winnipeg will definitely want the moon, Boston here will probably more a good prospect added, etc ...

Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:14 p.m.

hockeynutter

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Quoting: CJets

Hellebuyck is worth WAY more than that

Normally he would be but this idea is more based on whether the new team can resign him and his salary hurting the trade value. Goalies lately have not been traded on equal value with forwards or defensemen. They have been traded for much less. Look at quick, Fleury, etc... While yes they were on a more down trend in stats versus hellebuyck it helps show where goalie value is heading making a trade that really benefits the jets harder.

Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:16 p.m.

hockeynutter

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Quoting: beantownboy17

Going from an article on Sportsnet saying win now Bruins may look at schiefele and if did would need lysell, 1st starting point for the jets and swayman for salary and cap reasons. But would Boston want more back, yes very well could be true and in terms of cap, 100% they may prefer Lindholm. Lindholm would cost less toom

Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.

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F50marco

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And just imagine, "experts" who get paid for their work, came up with this idea.

Although, If the point was to get clicks, it probably worked. Shame on us for perpetuating the problem.

Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:35 p.m.

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masterjuddi

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Quoting: NDoody

sure but that doesnt mean he's worth peanuts

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Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.

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Windjammer

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Why would the Jets trade Hellebuyck for a cap dump and a 3rd? If his value was that bad you just keep him and play him. A year of Hellebuyck isn't a net negative value as offered here. Not anywhere close to a realistic value.

Aug. 15, 2023 at 2:35 p.m.

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CW_73

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Is Boston getting four Scheifeles in the deal? Only way I can make sense of this return

Aug. 15, 2023 at 3:08 p.m.

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Grapevine

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Bruins won’t trade Swayman and that’s an awful return for Hellebuyck.

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