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Created by: Erbas1915
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 28, 2023
Published: Sep. 6, 2023
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I tried to pick options where Hanifin would be willing to extend before the end of the season. Please give feedback
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  1. Samoskevich, Mackie
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    1. Wallinder, William
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:17 p.m.
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    no way detroit does that w edvinsson being almost NHL ready
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:19 p.m.
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    Zero chance Detroit makes that trade, highly unlikely Buffalo trades both a 1st and 2nd in the same draft for another LHD. Florida could make sense but I highly doubt they part with Samo
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:19 p.m.
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    Detroit certainly is not going to be in the market for Hanifin.
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:27 p.m.
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    More wishful thinking that teams are giving up so much to extend or maybe extend Hanifan. Just doesn't happen very often. Look at the Flames roster. Five UFA signings, which didn't cost the Flames picks or players.
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    More wishful thinking that teams are giving up so much to extend or maybe extend Hanifan. Just doesn't happen very often. Look at the Flames roster. Five UFA signings, which didn't cost the Flames picks or players.


    I don't think i'm asking for the moon here, am I? I'd think Hanifin could return at least a 1st at the deadline. Much worse players have gotten worse returns. I figured you'd give up more if you get him for the full season and are able to have the whole season to extend him
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:39 p.m.
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    I don't think i'm asking for the moon here, am I? I'd think Hanifin could return at least a 1st at the deadline. Much worse players have gotten worse returns. I figured you'd give up more if you get him for the full season and are able to have the whole season to extend him


    Oh, I agree that if the Flames are sellers at TDL, they could get a first for Hanifan. But basing a trade on extensions.....very, very problematic. Just rarely happens.
    Certainly the Wings and Sabres won't be looking at giving up so much for LHD.
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: Erbas1915
    I don't think i'm asking for the moon here, am I? I'd think Hanifin could return at least a 1st at the deadline. Much worse players have gotten worse returns. I figured you'd give up more if you get him for the full season and are able to have the whole season to extend him


    Detroit just traded a 1st and a middle 6 winger for a 2 time 40 goal scorer, and you think a 1st(the better of their 2) + a top D prospect of theirs is worth a player who may be a rental and isn't a need in the organization?
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Oh, I agree that if the Flames are sellers at TDL, they could get a first for Hanifan. But basing a trade on extensions.....very, very problematic. Just rarely happens.
    Certainly the Wings and Sabres won't be looking at giving up so much for LHD.


    I guess I just don't think I'm asking for very much. I'm basically asking for a 1st + 2nd for a full season of Hanifin. I only think Florida would be a place Hanifin would extend immediately of the options I posted here
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.
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    Boston


    You don't think Boston would rather save their bullets to trade for a centre?
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.
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    You don't think Boston would rather save their bullets to trade for a centre?


    “where Hanifin would be willing to extend before the end of the season”

    Was just following instructions.
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: AquaticOwl
    Detroit just traded a 1st and a middle 6 winger for a 2 time 40 goal scorer, and you think a 1st(the better of their 2) + a top D prospect of theirs is worth a player who may be a rental and isn't a need in the organization?


    Well i still see Detroit's blueline being quite weak, so perhaps Wings fans perceive their team differently than some outsiders do. It probably is too soon for them to trade for a guy who may or not extend, I don't think the comp I've outlined is unreasonable though
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    “where Hanifin would be willing to extend before the end of the season”

    Was just following instructions.


    There wasn't a question mark at the end of that sentence, you may want a refresher on your syntax wink
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 3:52 p.m.
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    Too much for Florida. Take out mackie and add a lesser prospect and one of our 15 d on the roster
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 4:13 p.m.
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    Im not sure you get more than a 1st at the deadline for Hanafin as a rental the market seems pretty locked up these days its probably best to try and sign him. He's not horrible and he's just hitting his prime. But if you want to get something for him its a bad time to be selling.
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 4:16 p.m.
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    I wouldn't hate the Sabres going after a vet goalie, but I don't think vladar is the guy though. I'm not sure he's a significant upgrade over comrie or upl. Hanifin is such an odd fit- our best 3 d are all left handed. Dahlin is paired with Samuelsson. Power is on the second pair, the Sabres may have a good partner for him in Clifton. So do you bring hanifin in to play on the 3rd pair? Do you roll 4 lefties in your top 4? Plus, I'm not sure what appetite the Sabres would have to throw another big contract at another left shot d. I've said before on here, I can see the Sabres having interest in hanifin at the deadline if there is a long term injury to one of the three big left d on the team, I can't see it now though. And the Sabres will have 15 million committed to dahlin/Samuelsson, Clifton at 3m, plus powers extension- I can see the Sabres paying a rental price under the right circumstances, but I doubt they wanna pay him big money on an extension.
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: DDossett
    Im not sure you get more than a 1st at the deadline for Hanafin as a rental the market seems pretty locked up these days its probably best to try and sign him. He's not horrible and he's just hitting his prime. But if you want to get something for him its a bad time to be selling.


    If we retained and then traded him at the deadline, we would get at minimum a 1st. Teams will have accrued cap space during the season and thus there will be more suitors bidding
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.
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    I wouldn't hate the Sabres going after a vet goalie, but I don't think vladar is the guy though. I'm not sure he's a significant upgrade over comrie or upl. Hanifin is such an odd fit- our best 3 d are all left handed. Dahlin is paired with Samuelsson. Power is on the second pair, the Sabres may have a good partner for him in Clifton. So do you bring hanifin in to play on the 3rd pair? Do you roll 4 lefties in your top 4? Plus, I'm not sure what appetite the Sabres would have to throw another big contract at another left shot d. I've said before on here, I can see the Sabres having interest in hanifin at the deadline if there is a long term injury to one of the three big left d on the team, I can't see it now though. And the Sabres will have 15 million committed to dahlin/Samuelsson, Clifton at 3m, plus powers extension- I can see the Sabres paying a rental price under the right circumstances, but I doubt they wanna pay him big money on an extension.


    Yeah that's the awkward part of the fit. Hanifin would be your 3rd best dman so i assume you would move one of Hanifin/Power/Dahlin to the right side, so all 3 players are in the top 4. The bigger issue is Hanifin being willing to extend in Buffalo, although a successful season this year could probably sway him

    Obviously there's been lots of Hanifn to BUF rumors this summer and you guys haven't really added anyone notable. So either your management were just hoping for a low ball deal or they are willing to pay and don't care so much about right vs left hand players on their normal side
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 4:42 p.m.
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    IF DETROIT TRADES BOSTON'S 2024 1ST THAT MEANS OTTAWA GETS DETROIT'S 2024 1ST!
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: Erbas1915
    Yeah that's the awkward part of the fit. Hanifin would be your 3rd best dman so i assume you would move one of Hanifin/Power/Dahlin to the right side, so all 3 players are in the top 4. The bigger issue is Hanifin being willing to extend in Buffalo, although a successful season this year could probably sway him

    Obviously there's been lots of Hanifn to BUF rumors this summer and you guys haven't really added anyone notable. So either your management were just hoping for a low ball deal or they are willing to pay and don't care so much about right vs left hand players on their normal side


    They have indicated in the past that they are not concerned about righty/lefty pairings, i dont believe the adams/granato regime has shown nearly enough defensively to give them a free pass on an idea like that. of course they did pick up two right handed d, in Clifton and Erik Johnson. Before granato got here, dahlin looked absolutely lost- we had a coach shackling him, playing with a weak partner, and not letting him do the things he was drafted for. Granato paired him with Samuelsson, and took the chains off, I don't see him breaking those two up. Which means, if we get hanifin, it's either 4 lefties in the top 4, or hanifin is on the third pair.
    Sep. 6, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.
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    They have indicated in the past that they are not concerned about righty/lefty pairings, i dont believe the adams/granato regime has shown nearly enough defensively to give them a free pass on an idea like that. of course they did pick up two right handed d, in Clifton and Erik Johnson. Before granato got here, dahlin looked absolutely lost- we had a coach shackling him, playing with a weak partner, and not letting him do the things he was drafted for. Granato paired him with Samuelsson, and took the chains off, I don't see him breaking those two up. Which means, if we get hanifin, it's either 4 lefties in the top 4, or hanifin is on the third pair.


    Couldn't they play Hanifin and Power together on the 2nd pairing?
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 6:22 p.m.
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    Well i still see Detroit's blueline being quite weak, so perhaps Wings fans perceive their team differently than some outsiders do. It probably is too soon for them to trade for a guy who may or not extend, I don't think the comp I've outlined is unreasonable though


    Detroit has the best prospect pipeline in the entire league on LD. They're not going to be trading for a LD and absolutely not for a rental. We have Gostisbehere that we will trade ourselves at the deadline just to make room for Edvinsson and Johansson who both are ready to step up this season.
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 6:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: Erbas1915
    Well i still see Detroit's blueline being quite weak, so perhaps Wings fans perceive their team differently than some outsiders do. It probably is too soon for them to trade for a guy who may or not extend, I don't think the comp I've outlined is unreasonable though


    Issue is that the location is unreasonable. Wallinder is a great LD prospect that, although may not be better than Hanifin, is not one year from UFA. Add onto the fact that this locks Detroit into not having a 2024 1st (which they're not in a position to be doing), just makes no sense. Makes even less sense knowing we also have Edvinsson and Johansson in the LD pipeline, too.
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 7:26 p.m.
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    Don't see Buffalo trading for Hanifin, we are pretty set at LD. Plus He’s a Good player but his Defense isn't exactly stellar. Don't think he's a good fit with Dahlin or Power. Rather save the assets and see what happens with Pesce
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    Sep. 6, 2023 at 8:08 p.m.
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    Issue is that the location is unreasonable. Wallinder is a great LD prospect that, although may not be better than Hanifin, is not one year from UFA. Add onto the fact that this locks Detroit into not having a 2024 1st (which they're not in a position to be doing), just makes no sense. Makes even less sense knowing we also have Edvinsson and Johansson in the LD pipeline, too.


    Wallinder is a RD
     
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