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Created by: sens65

Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 2, 2023

Published: Oct. 2, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

OTT

McLeod, Ryan
2024 1st round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

McLeod is Michael Andlauer's daughter's boyfriend.

Edmonton pays extra because Pinto has a far higher ceiling than McLeod.

EDM

Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
2024 2nd round pick (OTT)

OTT

CHI

Joseph, Mathieu
2024 4th round pick (TBL)
2025 2nd round pick (OTT)

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $875,000
Michael Del Zotto: $750,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$80,999,880	$0	$1,850,000	$2,500,120

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 5	Stützle, Tim $8,350,000$8,350,000 C UFA - 8	Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 2
Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 7	Tarasenko, Vladimir $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW NTC UFA - 1
Greig, Ridly $863,333$863,333 C, LW RFA - 2	McLeod, Ryan $2,100,000$2,100,000 C RFA - 2	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Smejkal, Jiri $870,000$870,000 LW UFA - 1	Kastelic, Mark $835,000$835,000 C, RW RFA - 2	MacEwen, Zack $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 5	Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Korpisalo, Joonas $4,000,000$4,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) LD UFA - 1	Zub, Artem $4,600,000$4,600,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Brännström, Erik $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD, LW RFA - 1	Hamonic, Travis $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Sokolov, Egor $775,000$775,000 LW RFA - 1
Bernard-Docker, Jacob $805,000$805,000 RD RFA - 2

Oct. 2, 2023 at 12:20 p.m.

NDoody

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Why are you moving Pinto and Joseph there is no need to move both?

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Oct. 2, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.

Ross_Johnston

No longer a Virgin

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Yeah Edmonton declines.

McLeod is better and knows what he's worth.

Oct. 2, 2023 at 12:41 p.m.

Hawksguy81

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Hawks probably accept

Oct. 2, 2023 at 12:43 p.m.

arab05

ARAB05

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Edmonton declines. If Michael Andlauer wants to bring his daughters boyfriend closer than he will have to over pay.

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Oct. 2, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.

BeterChiarelli

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I think if you dropped the 1st headed to Ottawa and found a way to guarantee that Norris signs an identical deal to the one McLeod has, it would be at least strongly considered by the Oilers' side. I don't think NHL clubs are at the "doing other teams favours with the cap" point of the season yet.

I really like McLeod's defensive utility considering the juggernaut Edmonton already maintains with its top two lines. Norris has better offensive output and I love myself a RHC, but unless Josh shows the same kind of two-way and PK upside, it's a tough sell that I'd probably begrudgingly accept.

Oct. 2, 2023 at 1:24 p.m.

SpinyLiving

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Pinto isn't worth a first and it'll take more than that to dump Joseph, especially to the Hawks.

Oct. 2, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.

sens65

Thread Starter

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Quoting: NDoody

Why are you moving Pinto and Joseph there is no need to move both?

In this scenario, the team would be over the cap with Joseph.

Oct. 2, 2023 at 5:29 p.m.

Xspyrit

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Edited Oct. 2, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.

lol didn't know McLeod was Andlauer's daughter's boyfriend.

ok so let me see, what do I prefer to have?

McLeod
2024 1st round pick (EDM)

OR

Pinto
Joseph
2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
2025 2nd round pick (OTT)
2024 4th round pick (TBL)

Yeah, not even close. Again, I'd much rather just waive Dominik Kubalik than do this

Quoting: BeterChiarelli

You meant Pinto lol but no chance Ottawa do any of this. Joseph is just as good as Mcleod defensively and produces similar offense, they are actually very similar players

Not going to pay Pinto, two seconds and a 4th for a late first round pick...

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Oct. 2, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.

Xspyrit

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