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Would this get a Pinto deal done

Created by: LikeABoss
Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 2, 2023
Published: Oct. 2, 2023
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This gets Ottawa an extra $2.3M and Lyon at $450k would be pretty sick

Also Compher and Ras looked good together so far
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DET
  1. 2024 7th round pick (TBL)
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*Becomes a 6th if Reimer starts 20 games
TBL
  1. Reimer, James ($750,000 retained)
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DET
  1. Forsberg, Anton
  2. 2024 4th round pick (DET)
OTT
  1. Lyon, Alex ($450,000 retained)
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22$83,500,000$80,005,973$0$3,350,000$3,494,027
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DeBrincat, Alex
$7,875,000$7,875,000
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
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Raymond, Lucas
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Rasmussen, Michael
$1,460,000$1,460,000
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Compher, J.T.
$5,100,000$5,100,000
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
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Copp, Andrew
$5,625,000$5,625,000
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Perron, David
$4,750,000$4,750,000
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Sprong, Daniel
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Fischer, Christian
$1,125,000$1,125,000
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Walman, Jake
$3,400,000$3,400,000
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Seider, Moritz
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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Husso, Ville
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Chiarot, Ben
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Petry, Jeff
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Holl, Justin
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Määttä, Olli
$3,000,000$3,000,000
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 8:27 p.m.
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Michael Rasmussen is good with anyone
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 8:29 p.m.
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I don’t see the sens moving Forsberg he’s very good
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 8:39 p.m.
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I think you can remove the retention on Lyon and it’s still fair
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 8:41 p.m.
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Is that the most expensive 3rd line in the league... 🤔
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
I think you can remove the retention on Lyon and it’s still fair


I agree, but it frees up enough for ~$2.4M for Pinto vs ~$1.95M. I also thought Sens fans would be intrigued by Lyon at $450k for 2 seasons
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 8:45 p.m.
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Quoting: LikeABoss
I agree, but it frees up enough for ~$2.4M for Pinto vs ~$1.95M. I also thought Sens fans would be intrigued by Lyon at $450k for 2 seasons

If there is retention I think it’s pretty fair to ask a third and even a second instead of the fourth
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 8:48 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Is that the most expensive 3rd line in the league... 🤔


top-5 3rd line, though
Oct. 2, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
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Quoting: LikeABoss
I agree, but it frees up enough for ~$2.4M for Pinto vs ~$1.95M. I also thought Sens fans would be intrigued by Lyon at $450k for 2 seasons


Not really. Forsberg has fit in and looked good with a larger sample size. He and Korpisalo would provide a good tandem, which Sens have lacked for years.

Sens need stable goaltending more than a 3C, which they can sign by moving other, less critical pieces. Lyon can maybe pick up where he left off, or he may not. Sens can't count on that. They know and like Forsberg, and his contract is reasonable.

I also don't think Yzerman is the type of person to trade a FA he just signed before the season even starts. Not a great move for a team to make.
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.
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Quoting: AnonymousSensFan
Not really. Forsberg has fit in and looked good with a larger sample size. He and Korpisalo would provide a good tandem, which Sens have lacked for years.

Sens need stable goaltending more than a 3C, which they can sign by moving other, less critical pieces. Lyon can maybe pick up where he left off, or he may not. Sens can't count on that. They know and like Forsberg, and his contract is reasonable.

I also don't think Yzerman is the type of person to trade a FA he just signed before the season even starts. Not a great move for a team to make.


Understandable. I was just trying something off the beaten path with this trade.

I'm not saying Forsberg is bad, but I think it would be fair to put him in the same ballpark as Reimer and Lyon. From the Wings perspective this would maybe be a slight upgrade, for an extra 4th and a pretty substantial cap hit for 2 seasons...
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Is that the most expensive 3rd line in the league... 🤔


What's the point?
Oct. 2, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.
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laugh If Detroit sells at the deadline, We sure aren't retaining on two cheap contracts like Lyon and Reimer. We'd be retaining on Perron and Gostisbehere more than likely.
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 9:55 p.m.
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Quoting: LikeABoss
Understandable. I was just trying something off the beaten path with this trade.

I'm not saying Forsberg is bad, but I think it would be fair to put him in the same ballpark as Reimer and Lyon. From the Wings perspective this would maybe be a slight upgrade, for an extra 4th and a pretty substantial cap hit for 2 seasons...


Understandable, and as a Sens fan, I appreciated not seeing a Joseph trade for the millionth time smile
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 10:23 p.m.
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I don’t see the sens moving Forsberg he’s very good


He's as good as Husso is it would be a 1A and 1B.
Oct. 2, 2023 at 10:33 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Is that the most expensive 3rd line in the league... 🤔


$14.375M it could be but I don't see Perron spending a lot of time on the 3rd line. He was second is scoring on the Wings last season and if Yzerman plans trading him at the TDL the better he does the more valuable he is.
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 11:36 p.m.
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I don’t see the sens moving Forsberg he’s very good

Not only he's good (I'd say the most underrated goalie in 2 forums) but he's the reason why Korpisalo signed in Ottawa. How would it look if you trade Forsberg now?
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Oct. 3, 2023 at 12:03 a.m.
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How are you going to trade Perron, Fischer, Sprong, and Gostisbehere at the deadline when you have no retentions slots left?
 
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