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Created by: M0LSON

Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 4, 2023

Published: Oct. 4, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

possible options to fix the cap hell the sens are in..boucher probbly be the next waiver that gets picked up.Josh bailey could be a cheap replacement for Joseph. I see no need for parker kelly taking a roster spot. kept 4th liners as grinders ...swap out for scorers against certain teams. Pinto agrees to 1.5m with promise of better bridge when the dead cap comes off the books next season

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Pinto, Shane		1	$1,500,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Bailey, Josh		1	$775,000

Trades

OTT

Foerster, Tyson

PHI

OTT

Barron, Justin

MTL

OTT

waivers

ANA

Kelly, Parker

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $875,000
Michael Del Zotto: $750,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$80,401,546	$0	$1,850,000	$3,098,454

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 5	Stützle, Tim $8,350,000$8,350,000 C UFA - 8	Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 2
Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 4	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 7	Tarasenko, Vladimir $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW NTC UFA - 1
Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Pinto, Shane $1,500,000$1,500,000 C RFA - 1	Bailey, Josh $775,000$775,000 RW, LW, C UFA
Greig, Ridly $863,333$863,333 C, LW RFA - 2	Kastelic, Mark $835,000$835,000 C, RW RFA - 2	MacEwen, Zack $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) LD UFA - 1	Zub, Artem $4,600,000$4,600,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Korpisalo, Joonas $4,000,000$4,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 5	Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Brännström, Erik $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD, LW RFA - 1	Hamonic, Travis $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Foerster, Tyson $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 2
Guénette, Maxence $813,333$813,333 RD RFA - 1

Oct. 4, 2023 at 1:24 p.m.

Black61

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Habs decline

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Oct. 4, 2023 at 1:25 p.m.

Kyle_Okposo_Lover

Josh Anderson Sucks

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Foerster>Boucher so not enough for Philly imo.

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Oct. 4, 2023 at 1:27 p.m.

PhilEMyers

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Change Foerster to future considerations and add a pick

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Oct. 4, 2023 at 1:29 p.m.

M0LSON

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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover

Foerster>Boucher so not enough for Philly imo.

damn i know if they were to take on joseph contract they also wanted boucher as well....would you settle for a 3rd rounder instead?

Oct. 4, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.

M0LSON

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Quoting: Black61

Habs decline

ya thought so....THats why i am not the GM...lol

Oct. 4, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.

GMDannyB

Danny B is here

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Quoting: M0LSON

damn i know if they were to take on joseph contract they also wanted boucher as well....would you settle for a 3rd rounder instead?

Dude Foerster would be one of the Sens best prospects lol top 5 minimum. Boucher probably ain’t even worth a 3rd rounder himself at this point. That trade is wildly off base😂

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Oct. 4, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.

Ross_Johnston

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Montreal counters with Phil Malliet and Lias Andersson for Pinto

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Oct. 4, 2023 at 2:05 p.m.

Xspyrit

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Edited Oct. 4, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.

- Foerster is a good prospect that I would much rather have than Boucher, so that doesn't work

- Unfortunately, no one will give us anything worthy for JBD and Sokolov now.

Quoting: M0LSON

boucher probbly be the next waiver that gets picked up.Josh bailey could be a cheap replacement for Joseph.

What do you mean "boucher probbly be the next waiver that gets picked up"? Isn't like 2 years from not being waivers exempt?

Joseph >>>>> Bailey and I'm being generous. Keep Joseph, don't sign Bailey

Oct. 4, 2023 at 2:07 p.m.

Garak

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I don't understand how Thomson gets claimed but JBD and Sokolov don't. But, hey, good for OTT!

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Oct. 4, 2023 at 2:35 p.m.

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Burnout

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Why would the Flyers or Habs ever consider those?

Foerster might be the best piece in that deal and the Flyers want a hell of a plus to eat Joseph's contract. If you want an asset from the Flyers you have to add even more.

The Habs have a lot of depth bodies and don't really need Sokolov or JBD in the NHL or AHL. If they wanted either then they could have had them for free.

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Oct. 4, 2023 at 2:35 p.m.

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Fergy22

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Quoting: Garak

I don't understand how Thomson gets claimed but JBD and Sokolov don't. But, hey, good for OTT!

Its likely just a matter of time , if and when they get called up they have to clear again to go to Bellville

Oct. 4, 2023 at 2:58 p.m.

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SMH

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Wait .... You're trading 2 player who just cleared waivers for a player who actually had a 1st round value a few years post his draft ?!

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Oct. 4, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.

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Xspyrit

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Quoting: Garak

I don't understand how Thomson gets claimed but JBD and Sokolov don't. But, hey, good for OTT!

Not surprised for Sokolov but JBD is surprising. Dorion gambled and won that time, it's the only time in the season where you can pass guys like that through waivers

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Oct. 4, 2023 at 3:56 p.m.

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M0LSON

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Quoting: SMH

Wait .... You're trading 2 player who just cleared waivers for a player who actually had a 1st round value a few years post his draft ?!

read discription i stated if this happened 72 hrs prior

Oct. 4, 2023 at 6:53 p.m.

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Ross_Johnston

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Quoting: Xspyrit

- Foerster is a good prospect that I would much rather have than Boucher, so that doesn't work

- Unfortunately, no one will give us anything worthy for JBD and Sokolov now.

What do you mean "boucher probbly be the next waiver that gets picked up"? Isn't like 2 years from not being waivers exempt?

Joseph >>>>> Bailey and I'm being generous. Keep Joseph, don't sign Bailey

they're signing bailey

Oct. 4, 2023 at 7:05 p.m.

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Xspyrit

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Quoting: Ross_Johnston

they're signing bailey

Wouldn't be the first time Pierre Dorion does something non-sensical

Bailey simply isn't NHL level anymore

Oct. 4, 2023 at 8:08 p.m.

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Moss_Bucket

See you space cowboy

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I'm gonna assume you don't know how high Foerster is of a prospect for the Flyers. He's kind of like Pinto for you guys. So this isn't even close for what the Flyers would part for.

Oct. 4, 2023 at 8:26 p.m.

#18

SMH

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Quoting: M0LSON

read discription i stated if this happened 72 hrs prior

Their value didn't change in the last 72hrs, even if you offered them to the habs for future considerations habs would still decline as all other 30 teams would too

Oct. 5, 2023 at 12:33 a.m.

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Xspyrit

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Edited Oct. 5, 2023 at 1:58 a.m.

Quoting: Moss_Bucket

I'm gonna assume you don't know how high Foerster is of a prospect for the Flyers. He's kind of like Pinto for you guys. So this isn't even close for what the Flyers would part for.

He was probably thinking he was more of a Sokolov type. I'd say he's more a Jarventie than Pinto because Shane has already graduated and was more a 2-way center type than top-6 winger. I don't know if people have followed Jarventie's progression but Sens fans should be really high on him

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