This guy ****s on me for a minor league deal and then proceeds to blow up the Blackhawks

Hawks easily decline because you forgot LAF, KK, Fox and 2 more 1st round picks

So 2guys who went out of their way to get FULL NMC 's wZive just because 🙄 stop

He can’t be obtained

You must live in a state where weed is legal. Just a suggestion, save some for later. Smoking it all at once causes crap like this!

My guy I get Bedard is supposed to be good but he's not McDavid

Brilliant! Bedard is out of the west and both the rangers and Chicago screw themselves. !

What are you talking about, I just explained that the Rangers aren't getting rid of Lafreniere and that the rumors aren't true

Your flair is spectacular

Ditto with ALL of the daily NMC and dreamland trades...

Hawks obviously decline.

I respect that you dream big.

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People are acting like NYR isn’t giving up value here

First, one of the best goalies in the game, then 2 high end forward vets half retained, then Miller and a 1st?

Holy package, but still doesn’t happen as the Hawks can’t do that for all kind of reasons

This AGM post is an idiotic offer for Bedard so my counter was idiotic as such.

That said, Bedard's value right now isn't far off of McDavid's value right now, why? Because he's on a ELC for the next 3 years and locked in long term beyond the ELC, McDavid is not.

He may not be McDavid, but he's at least Kane...a generational talent, and as a rookie he's one of the most, if not most valuable players in a trade. Trying to guess what that is worth in the trade market is a futile exercise as a rookie McDavid, Matthews or Kane would never be traded by the Oilers, Leafs or Hawks for very good reason. The price would be astronomical that no team could afford without destroying their roster and giving up futures.

Stay off drugs

You clearly don't understand the value of owning the next 8 years of the best prospect in the NHL in years with a ELC in place for 3 of those years (aka a low cap hit). That's worth the same or even more than owning 3 years of McDavid at a $12.5M cap hit right now.

Understand the cap implications and contract situation before you make a poor attempt to insult. Instead point to an example where a generational prospect was traded in the first season he played....you can't because it has never happen and never will for the reasons I pointed to.

Not saying Bedard would be traded, but to say a kid who hasn't played a single game is worth the same as the best player since Gretzky is asinine. So if you don't want people to tell you to stay of drugs, then don't try to be a clown and post stupid stuff.

The Hawks aren't trading Bedard.
Not for Panarin and a bunch of first-rounders.
He's a generational talent and in Chicago he will stay.

The clown is not understanding the contract situations of players with ELCs, RFA status versus UFA status and suggesting the best prospect in the NHL in at least a half decade or longer, isn't very close to the worth the best player in the league with the 2nd highest cap hit who is a UFA in 3 years is asinine. Do you think for one minute the Hawks would trade Bedard for McDavid straight up? If you do, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Hawks are rebuilding, McDavid does nothing to help that. Bedard provides an acceleration on the rebuild.

This trade proposed here does nothing but set the Hawks backwards. The rangers would literally have to give up Fox, KK, AL and a couple late firsts to get the Hawks to move Bedard which the Rangers will never do as they are competing. You don't trade a generational talent, that at worst is a Patrick Kane for the next 8 years or longer in a Hawks sweater for the best player in the league who will walk in 3 years or for a bunch of young players and late 1sts who will never be generational talents and or not living up to their hype besides Fox. That's the point of the post. There is a reason that McDavid, Matthews, McKinnon, Kane, Crosby were never traded immediately following drafting them; each one of those players leading up to the draft has record breaking resumes and were highly touted as a generational talent way more than a typical 1st overall pick in a normal draft year with incredibly low odds of being a "bust" compared to a typical year...guys like this are worth gold to the future of their teams. To put this in perspective, compare Alexis's resume to Bedard or Kane, Matthews, McDavid...his resume was not even close, and yet it would have taken mountains still to get the Rangers to move Alexis following the draft. Now take a prospect that is head and shoulders above Alexis to a rebuilding team and you begin to understand why to the Hawks, he's worth more than McDavid.

Bro honestly I'm not reading all of this... it's like talking to a brick wall

For sure it is talking to a brick wall with you. You lack the ability to understand the value of contracts, contract status and team positioning. Just sit back and watch Bedard turn into the next Crosby, Matthews or Kane over the next few years and you'll finally grasp what I'm explaining to you here.

I would accept if I was the hawks.

Let's just money ball the value here, lmk if there's any you disagree with

Hall+Foligno=0 value

1st
Shesty 3 1sts
Mika half retained 3 1sts
Panarin Half retained 2 1sts
Miller+Sykora 2 1sts.

That's 11 firsts of value, or 66 million (based on monahan cap dump)

Bedard over 7 years has to be worth 70 mill+whatever his RFA deal is. Let's say he signs an 8x4. That's 102 mill over 7 years.

Banking on bedard to be a 14.5 mill player over the life of team control.

This is a fair offer imo

Edit let's go big and say he signs the Mack deal, 12.6x8+4+66. Thats 170 million over 11 years. Or 15.5 AAV. Basically you're banking on this kid being mcdavid over the life of the deal.

And getting into team situation, you'd flip all these assets. And realistically you're wasting bedards most valuable years bc chicago won't contend anytime soon.

Sorry, but I don't think those 4 players have anywhere near 11 1st's of value. Maybe half of that. When was the last time any NHL player got traded for 3 1st's? And if your plan is to turn around and flip the Ranger players for picks and prospects, you are basically starting the rebuild over after two seasons. In terms of the "team situation", the Hawks fanbase would desert the team in droves if they traded Bedard after what the Hawks went thru to land him.

Whether it's a "fair offer" or not is open for debate, but it doesn't really matter. Trading the future face of the franchise is a non-starter in this deal. Just not going to happen.

When's the last time the best goalie in hockey was available?

When's the last time a 40 goal 90 point player had a contract of 4.25 mill x 7. I'd say that's worth 3 1sts. Even assuming mika has 0 value at his current price, 30 mill in retention alone costs 3 1sts

When's the last time a 90+ point player had a contract of 5.6x3. Even assuming Panarin has 0 value, at his current cap hit. 17 mill in retention costs 2 1sts

a 1st is a 1st

Miller would probably cost a 1st+2nd, and sykora was just a 2nd round pick