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Dobson

Created by: Ross_Johnston
Team: 2023-24 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 12, 2023
Published: Oct. 12, 2023
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Trades
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NYI
  1. Guhle, Kaiden
  2. Konyushkov, Bogdan [Reserve List]
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (MIN)
2.
NSH
  1. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (MIN)
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2024
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23$83,500,000$81,464,166$0$420,000$2,035,834
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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This team kills me
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Did he have a bad game? Or is this a closet MTL fan
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
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both teams decline the MTL trade
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:14 a.m.
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Need way more for him
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:14 a.m.
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Quoting: SMH
both teams decline the MTL trade


MTL DECLINES?? WHAT lmao
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
MTL DECLINES?? WHAT lmao


Im not a fan of either team but i do know the Habs are very high on guhle. I also know dobson is very very good but Guhle is looking like hell be just as good.
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:22 a.m.
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Did he have a bad game? Or is this a closet MTL fan


He's a closet habs fan btw
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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Two very different types of players, Guhle is better at transition defending and Dobson has the higher offensive game. Dobson will be more valuable than Guhle because offensive Dmen are harder to find.

Don't think the Isles say yes to this deal but I don't know if the Habs do either. Isles say no because of value, Habs probably say no because they have other RHD prospects they hope work out
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:33 a.m.
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
Did he have a bad game? Or is this a closet MTL fan


Neither, just a random shower thought lol
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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Dobson is already a stud but the Habs are extremely high on the younger Guhle so I don’t see why either team would do this.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
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While the Ghule vs. Dobson is a fair debate

- habs are not gifting Konyushkov to the isles... The guy is murdering the KHL at 18 at D.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Ross_Johnston
Neither, just a random shower thought lol


Were you having a shower beer? Lol

Nah I’m just playin, I just dont think that the value is there
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
Were you having a shower beer? Lol

Nah I’m just playin, I just dont think that the value is there


I was huffing gasoline
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
While the Ghule vs. Dobson is a fair debate

- habs are not gifting Konyushkov to the isles... The guy is murdering the KHL at 18 at D.


He's almost 21 and is half a ppg. Not murdering anything lmao
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
MTL DECLINES?? WHAT lmao


Yeah I would say so, super high on Guhle and Konyshukov is doing VERY VERY well in the KHL right now. Seems like a silly trade to make atm.
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:43 a.m.
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Quoting: Ross_Johnston
I was huffing gasoline


Sniffing glue usually does the trick
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:54 a.m.
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
Sniffing glue usually does the trick


i built up an ammunity
Oct. 12, 2023 at 12:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Ross_Johnston
i built up an ammunity


Ah bummer, paint? I wouldn’t try nitrogen tho
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
MTL DECLINES?? WHAT lmao


Guhle is literally, EXACTLY 2 years younger than Dobson. Exactly.

Dobson, exactly at same age as Guhle's first season, as almost EXACTLY the same numbers.
Guhle is also giving bone crushing hits and an elite skater.

He's 2 years younger and on the EXACT same trajectory.

So yes, Habs decline, just because there's no need.

The real question is... LHD or RHD. And 2 years difference.

Please, look at the stats from both players, and realize - if you can refrain from allowing your bias blind you - that whoever posted this trade - is way closer in trade value than your knee-jerk uninformed reaction projects.

You can spit your coffee laughing but ZERO GM around the league would consider Dobson MILES ahead of Guhle... when they were both 21 years old.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Ross_Johnston
He's almost 21 and is half a ppg. Not murdering anything lmao


Compare his 0.5 ppg to ANY other KHL defensement under 23...
Oct. 12, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
MTL DECLINES?? WHAT lmao


Most definitely
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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Dobson is a great young offensive D man but that isn't what Montreal is doing with their defense. Take a look at what their D men look like Guhle, Reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron, Xhekaj, Matheson, Kovacevic all big, mobile, 2 way D men hell even Harris and Konyushkov are just under 6' but their play styles and hockey IQ make up for being slightly on the smaller side. Hutson is our only D prospect taken in the last 3 years who doesn't really fit that mold.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
While the Ghule vs. Dobson is a fair debate

- habs are not gifting Konyushkov to the isles... The guy is murdering the KHL at 18 at D.


Fair debate lol - Dobson is one of the best chance creating defenseman in the NHL and Guhle isnt anywhere close to Dobson’s level. MTL could add a 1st and isles would still decline
Oct. 12, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Dobson is a great young offensive D man but that isn't what Montreal is doing with their defense. Take a look at what their D men look like Guhle, Reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron, Xhekaj, Matheson, Kovacevic all big, mobile, 2 way D men hell even Harris and Konyushkov are just under 6' but their play styles and hockey IQ make up for being slightly on the smaller side. Hutson is our only D prospect taken in the last 3 years who doesn't really fit that mold.


Matheson and reinbacher are the only two D that fit the “two way D” mold .
Oct. 12, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.
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Fair debate lol - Dobson is one of the best chance creating defenseman in the NHL and Guhle isnt anywhere close to Dobson’s level. MTL could add a 1st and isles would still decline


Again, no one was saying that 2 years ago with Dobson.
You seem to forget that they have exactly 2 year apart and have almost identical offensive stats when they were playing at 20 years old.
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 12:55 p.m.
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Guhle is literally, EXACTLY 2 years younger than Dobson. Exactly.

Dobson, exactly at same age as Guhle's first season, as almost EXACTLY the same numbers.
Guhle is also giving bone crushing hits and an elite skater.

He's 2 years younger and on the EXACT same trajectory.

So yes, Habs decline, just because there's no need.

The real question is... LHD or RHD. And 2 years difference.

Please, look at the stats from both players, and realize - if you can refrain from allowing your bias blind you - that whoever posted this trade - is way closer in trade value than your knee-jerk uninformed reaction projects.

You can spit your coffee laughing but ZERO GM around the league would consider Dobson MILES ahead of Guhle... when they were both 21 years old.


Dobson is a better skater than Guhle . Hits don’t matter.


Guhle is better at 5v5 defense. Dobson is a better passer, shooter, transition player , penalty killer, PP etc…
 
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