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Moves towards 23-24

Created by: Hammerwise
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 16, 2023
Published: Oct. 23, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Brännström, Erik
  2. Joseph, Mathieu
  3. 2024 4th round pick (TBL)
OTT
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
2.
CGY
  1. Cates, Noah
  2. Sanheim, Travis ($1,250,000 retained)
PHI
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. Lindholm, Elias
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (CGY)
3.
4.
CGY
  1. 2025 4th round pick (VAN)
5.
CGY
  1. Niemelä, Topi
  2. 2024 5th round pick (TOR)
  3. 2025 5th round pick (TOR)
  4. 2026 5th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Zadorov, Nikita ($1,837,500 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$81,352,499$0$1,077,500$2,147,501
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Taxi Squad
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$856,667$856,667 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
RFA - 2

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Oct. 23, 2023 at 6:46 a.m.
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Awful return for Lindholm
Oct. 23, 2023 at 6:54 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Awful return for Lindholm


Maybe, but Cates was selke candidate in his rookie year who put up 35+ pts on a team that couldn;t score, and sanheim is looking pretty good this year after a bad 23-24, and at 5mil thats the CGY top 4.

The 2nd was an enticement as PHI then HAS TO resign Lindholm.

Gives CGY a solid 2nd pairing dman and a young 2C/3C, signed for less than Lindholm will want/get and Joseph
Oct. 23, 2023 at 7:05 a.m.
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Maybe, but Cates was selke candidate in his rookie year who put up 35+ pts on a team that couldn;t score, and sanheim is looking pretty good this year after a bad 23-24, and at 5mil thats the CGY top 4.

The 2nd was an enticement as PHI then HAS TO resign Lindholm.

Gives CGY a solid 2nd pairing dman and a young 2C/3C, signed for less than Lindholm will want/get and Joseph


Makes no sense at all. Cates is decent but Calgary needs a 1st line center not a 3rd line center. Sanheim is also a fine player but trading for him is counterintuitive if the Flames are selling. Adding a 2nd while is just the cherry on top, your reasoning is irrational too. Plenty of teams would have interest in adding a 1C like Lindholm, "incentivizing" a team to take him is just ridiculous.

Also you are the one who traded for Joseph to begin with, you put Calgary over the cap with that trade so it can't even be made without doing the Zadorov and/or Vladar trades first
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 7:22 a.m.
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what would you want for tanev retained from Vancouver?
Oct. 23, 2023 at 7:44 a.m.
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Canucks pass.zero need for another goalie.IMHO.
Oct. 23, 2023 at 7:46 a.m.
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Maybe, but Cates was selke candidate in his rookie year who put up 35+ pts on a team that couldn;t score, and sanheim is looking pretty good this year after a bad 23-24, and at 5mil thats the CGY top 4.

The 2nd was an enticement as PHI then HAS TO resign Lindholm.

Gives CGY a solid 2nd pairing dman and a young 2C/3C, signed for less than Lindholm will want/get and Joseph


If they just re-sign Hanifin or (even acquire Girard- don't think COL does that trade), then they don't really have a need for Sanheim (who is not available: was told he wasn't getting traded + he has a NMC). The last top-4 spot can just be left open for a guy like Brannstrom and maybe Niemela and other prospects to compete for along with a veteran FA signing.

Also, as Ledge_And_Dairy pointed out, leaving that gaping hole down the middle still makes no sense just to fill a (self-made) hole in the 2nd pairing on defense.
Oct. 23, 2023 at 8:23 a.m.
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Why would Colorado trade a Dman with 3.5 years of term left for a pending UFA? Awful asset management
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 8:32 a.m.
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Slapping the faces of Flyers fans right there.
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 8:37 a.m.
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Neither team would want that Flyers trade. It’s not great value for Lindholm and at the same time why on earth would we want Joseph and retain on Sanheim for 8 years?
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 8:38 a.m.
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Yeah COL isn’t doing that
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 12:08 p.m.
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Sens most likely do that since that would allow them to sign Pinto and solidify the defense. Chabot would really need a guy like Tanev. It also allows to have one of the big 3 always on the ice.

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Tanev
Chychrun - Hamonic
JBD

But that's another anti-climate move for a rebuilding team, acquire an older soon UFA player for 2 young players. Anyway, there's no ideal situation to get out of Dorion's mismanagement
Oct. 23, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: remowilliams
Canucks pass.zero need for another goalie.IMHO.


They definitely pass. Vladar had really bad numbers last year, and he's been even worse to start the season. I can't possibly see why they would want to trade an asset and take on more cap hit to downgrade from DeSmith
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.
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Why on earth would the Avs even contemplate that?
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: canucksdownunder
what would you want for tanev retained from Vancouver?


likely a first and some random prospect/player
Oct. 23, 2023 at 6:24 p.m.
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oh man i hope the leafs say no but that’s not a bad price
 
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