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Hockeys Hardest Rebuild 24-25

Created by: HabsFan61
Team: 2024-25 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 5, 2023
Published: Nov. 6, 2023
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The last time I saw a team this bad was the 1974 Caps. Mike Grier has one heck of a job in front of him.

The off-season should start with a new head coach. Quinn has done nothing wrong but it’s going to require a long term process to take this on and the players need a coach to grow with. I believe continuity and culture matter when building a winning franchise.I also believe San Jose has some better options for this process:

1 Ryan Warsofky- He’s already on the staff and is considered one of the bright up and coming minds in coaching. I think the easiest solution is to promote him and let the team grow with him.

2 Marco Sturm- He’s a significant name in the franchise’s history and more importantly he’s already a head coach with the Ontario Reign. He would be a solid hire.

3 Jay Woodcroft- I think the end is best for him in Edmonton and that’s probably best for him and the Oilers. He was an assistant for several years in SJ and he’s much better suited for this kind of project than the win now demands of Edmonton.

4.Joel Ward- Another former Shark who’s now an assistant in Vegas. He would fit with the proceed and time table this will take.

5 Rob Zettler- Another former Shark and a former assistant coach with them as well, who’s now an assistant in Tampa. This seems highly unlikely, which is why I have him 5th. Ideally he could come back as an assistant again.

As far as culture goes, get Joe Thornton back with the team in some capacity. He’s too important to the franchise and the fans. Likewise, the same should be true for Burns when his career is finished. Another former Shark I would want to see involved in some capacity is Jonathan Cheecho. I’m not sure what his relationship with the organization is now, but he could be valuable to them in this process.

As far as the trades go, moving Duclair this season for the best possible return is a must. He’s too valuable to not use to acquire some kind of futures. Moving Hertl seems like a wise move as well given he has plenty of value and that contract is not a problem if San Jose can take back enough salary. I chose Dallas for a fit and an example of what it would take. Also, for goalies I would be looking for a dump like Campbell or Binnington. I believe Campbell will be bought out this summer, so I added him as a UFA. Waiver acquisitions and short term veteran UFAs much like Chicago did should be the way for filling out the roster for next season.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$850,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
1$1,450,000
2$875,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,500,000
1$2,500,000
1$800,000
1$5,250,000
1$1,350,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Campbell, Jack
1$1,500,000
Celebrini, Macklin
3$950,000
Parekh, Zayne
3$950,000
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. 2024 1st round pick (COL)
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Duclair 50% retained at TDL
COL
2.
SJS
  1. Lazar, Curtis
Additional Details:
Waivers pick up
NJD
3.
CGY
    Waivers
    4.
    SJS
    1. Binnington, Jordan
    2. 2025 2nd round pick (STL)
    Additional Details:
    Salary move to clear way for Hofer.
    STL
    1. Benning, Matthew
    2. Granlund, Mikael ($2,500,000 retained)
    5.
    SJS
    1. Bourque, Mavrik
    2. Faksa, Radek
    3. Kyrou, Christian
    4. Marchment, Mason
    5. 2025 1st round pick (DAL)
    6. 2026 2nd round pick (DAL)
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    2024
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    2025
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    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the STL
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the WPG
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    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the WSH
    2026
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$87,500,000$68,621,667$0$1,250,000$18,878,333
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW
    RFA - 2
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    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,450,000$1,450,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    C
    UFA
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RW
    UFA
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    $894,167$894,167
    C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,450,000$1,450,000
    RW, LW
    RFA
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Campbell, Jack
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $875,000$875,000
    LD
    RFA
    $1,350,000$1,350,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $775,000$775,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $800,000$800,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1

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    Nov. 6, 2023 at 10:18 p.m.
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    Blues decline. Hofer only has 9 games in the NHL, he is not ready to become the starter so we need Binnington to shoulder the load. Plus he has been playing well so far. We also have no need for Benning or Granlund.
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    Nov. 6, 2023 at 10:21 p.m.
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    We're not waiving CuLar
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    Nov. 6, 2023 at 10:32 p.m.
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    Good luck getting all that for Duclair and Hertl if their production doesn't drastically improve. Every team here declines, and no shot Arvidsson signs that.
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    Nov. 6, 2023 at 11:11 p.m.
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    Step 1: Fire David Quinn
    Step 2: Sell every veteran with value
    Step 3: Win the lottery and pick Celebrini
    Step 4: Replace said veterans with new ones in free agency, also take on as many bad deals as possible and gain even more draft capital
    Step 5: Be just as awful next season as you were this season
    Step 6: Sit back and wait for the prospects to eventually develop fully
    Step 7: Return to contention
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    Nov. 6, 2023 at 11:13 p.m.
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    So waive Lazar for no reason? Yes the devils should lose size and physical for no reason.
    Nov. 6, 2023 at 11:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    Step 1: Fire David Quinn
    Step 2: Sell every veteran with value
    Step 3: Win the lottery and pick Celebrini
    Step 4: Replace said veterans with new ones in free agency, also take on as many bad deals as possible and gain even more draft capital
    Step 5: Be just as awful next season as you were this season
    Step 6: Sit back and wait for the prospects to eventually develop fully
    Step 7: Return to contention


    Basically no one has value on the Sharks. Until they produce their not going anywhere. PS the Vet as of rn arent getting you anything, the Max you will get is a 6th
    Nov. 6, 2023 at 11:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: TyeZerker
    Basically no one has value on the Sharks. Until they produce their not going anywhere. PS the Vet as of rn arent getting you anything, the Max you will get is a 6th


    Yeah I looked at their roster and yeah, the only guy with any sort of value is Tomas Hertl
    Nov. 6, 2023 at 11:19 p.m.
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    Can't see that Dallas gives up that for Hertl. I think Hertl's value is lower. You can start with taking way the 1st round pick
    Nov. 6, 2023 at 11:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    Step 1: Fire David Quinn
    Step 2: Sell every veteran with value
    Step 3: Win the lottery and pick Celebrini
    Step 4: Replace said veterans with new ones in free agency, also take on as many bad deals as possible and gain even more draft capital
    Step 5: Be just as awful next season as you were this season
    Step 6: Sit back and wait for the prospects to eventually develop fully
    Step 7: Return to contention


    I'm curious with your point 6. You say sit back and watch the prospects develop. Do you play them in the NHL, or do you keep them as far away from this diseased cesspool as you can and play them in the AHL, to maximize their development?
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    Nov. 6, 2023 at 11:40 p.m.
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    Obviously the Blues don't even consider that.
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    Nov. 6, 2023 at 11:42 p.m.
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    Avs decline. Nobody should be givng up a first for anybody on the Sharks except Hertl.
    Nov. 7, 2023 at 12:32 a.m.
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    Quoting: goodaytoday
    I'm curious with your point 6. You say sit back and watch the prospects develop. Do you play them in the NHL, or do you keep them as far away from this diseased cesspool as you can and play them in the AHL, to maximize their development?


    Only bring them up when they are “over ripe and ready to withstand the tough part of the development of the team! I rushing anyone”
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    Nov. 7, 2023 at 12:33 a.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    Step 1: Fire David Quinn
    Step 2: Sell every veteran with value
    Step 3: Win the lottery and pick Celebrini
    Step 4: Replace said veterans with new ones in free agency, also take on as many bad deals as possible and gain even more draft capital
    Step 5: Be just as awful next season as you were this season
    Step 6: Sit back and wait for the prospects to eventually develop fully
    Step 7: Return to contention


    I have a 5 phase process I posted not too far back that’s similar.
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    Nov. 7, 2023 at 3:38 a.m.
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    Quoting: Tennisman142
    Blues decline. Hofer only has 9 games in the NHL, he is not ready to become the starter so we need Binnington to shoulder the load. Plus he has been playing well so far. We also have no need for Benning or Granlund.


    A few good games in October don’t make up for over a season of bad play. Binnington has no value and is one of several goalies that could be dumped to save millions. Goalie value is at an all time low and the new model has been go cheap unless you have a sure thing.
    Nov. 7, 2023 at 3:40 a.m.
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    Good luck getting all that for Duclair and Hertl if their production doesn't drastically improve. Every team here declines, and no shot Arvidsson signs that.


    Duclair scored 31 goals the last time he played a full season on a good team. That’s easily worth a late 1st to a team trying to win a cup. And Arvidsson is going to miss most of this season after back surgery.
    Nov. 7, 2023 at 3:44 a.m.
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    Quoting: siamro
    Can't see that Dallas gives up that for Hertl. I think Hertl's value is lower. You can start with taking way the 1st round pick


    Faksa and Marchment are not valuable, so that’s over 7 million in dead money that’s going out the door. Hertl is valuable and is certainly worth a 1st. What else they’d get is up for debate and it may very well be lower than what I proposed but he would be worth a 1st easily. Karlsson even got a 1st with a long injury history and a bad contract. Hertl’s contract isn’t so bad given it’s long term with a rising cap coming.
    Nov. 7, 2023 at 3:47 a.m.
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    Quoting: goodaytoday
    I'm curious with your point 6. You say sit back and watch the prospects develop. Do you play them in the NHL, or do you keep them as far away from this diseased cesspool as you can and play them in the AHL, to maximize their development?


    That’s a great question you asked and I’d be curious to see his response as a Hawks fan because outside of Bedard it’s usual the safe thing to let young players either go back to juniors or play in the AHL. The Habs have been doing it right with our rebuild so far. Pushing a player into too many NHL games when they’re not ready leads you to a Lafrenière situation.
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    Nov. 7, 2023 at 7:32 a.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    Step 1: Fire David Quinn
    Step 2: Sell every veteran with value
    Step 3: Win the lottery and pick Celebrini
    Step 4: Replace said veterans with new ones in free agency, also take on as many bad deals as possible and gain even more draft capital
    Step 5: Be just as awful next season as you were this season
    Step 6: Sit back and wait for the prospects to eventually develop fully
    Step 7: Return to contention


    Sorry we didn't sexually assault multiple prospects so no number 1 overall for us.

    And no sharks fan should expect to win the lottery ever give our cursed history in the NHL and the lottery - we are the most down bad franchise in the sport smh
    Nov. 7, 2023 at 8:29 a.m.
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    Blues laugh
    Nov. 7, 2023 at 8:36 a.m.
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    Quoting: HabsFan61
    A few good games in October don’t make up for over a season of bad play. Binnington has no value and is one of several goalies that could be dumped to save millions. Goalie value is at an all time low and the new model has been go cheap unless you have a sure thing.


    Course it’s another habs fan that has no clue on players value 😭😂
    Nov. 7, 2023 at 8:48 a.m.
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    Under no circumstances is the Avs or any other team giving up a 1st for DuClair and no team is giving up 6 pieces for a 30yr old with over half a decade of a big contract left.
    Nov. 7, 2023 at 9:38 a.m.
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    Under no circumstances is the Avs or any other team giving up a 1st for DuClair and no team is giving up 6 pieces for a 30yr old with over half a decade of a big contract left.


    A guy who scored 31 goals last time he played a season on a good team should be worth around the 30th pick in the draft. That’s a fair price. Hertl’s contract is not bad when you look at it in a few years with a cap at 90 plus million.
    Nov. 7, 2023 at 9:39 a.m.
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    Quoting: xercuses
    Course it’s another habs fan that has no clue on players value 😭😂


    Goalies just don’t carry the value they once did. Goalies on bad contracts really don’t carry any. Why would you waste 6 million dollars on him when you can sign someone cheap like LA did and pair them with Hofer?
    Nov. 7, 2023 at 9:41 a.m.
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    Quoting: sharcuda22
    Sorry we didn't sexually assault multiple prospects so no number 1 overall for us.

    And no sharks fan should expect to win the lottery ever give our cursed history in the NHL and the lottery - we are the most down bad franchise in the sport smh


    And Celebrini is no Bedard. This will be a long process for you and I’m glad you have an owner with deep pockets.
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    Nov. 7, 2023 at 9:44 a.m.
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    Quoting: HabsFan61
    Goalies just don’t carry the value they once did. Goalies on bad contracts really don’t carry any. Why would you waste 6 million dollars on him when you can sign someone cheap like LA did and pair them with Hofer?


    I mean he’s a top 10 goalie rn, one bad year behind a terrible defense last year doesn’t define his value. He’s been very good.
    While I agree goalies don’t have as much value as they used to, he’s not a cap dump. The blues in this trade are taking cap dumps back which makes no sense

    Also hofer isn’t ready to take a full season as a starter. Even as a backup this year he’s looked a little shaky
     
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