My Approach to the Calgary Flames Rebuild

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Created by: Bruhimi

Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 9, 2023

Published: Nov. 13, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

The Flames suck, and that's a good thing. After years of try to squeeze into the playoffs so Murray Edwards can cash in on two playoff home games. The mediocrity has shown what this team really is. Garbage.

The Calgary Flames desperately need a rebuild in order to bring in some actual potential superstar talent. I do believe Wolf is the only prospect with that potential in our current pipeline, but even then, I'm hesitant to give him that since goalies are so weird. I also don't think that this is a personnel issue as well, I believe it also comes down to the way the Flames execute their gameplan on the ice.

With that being said, here is my approach to rebuilding the Calgary Flames.

Zadorov decreased his value by stating he wants out of Calgary; I still think he can return okay value if we take a bad contract back.

Tanev seems perfect for Jersey, I also read from a Devils beat writer that Holtz is disappointed with his usage under Lindy, he seems like a player that could use a change of scenery. Reminds me of Lindholm who struggled out the gate in Carolina but found his game here in YYC.

Lindholm to Colorado makes so much sense to me, I saw another ACGM with this trade but without Johansen. This trade would result in Lindholm extending as well, and the Avs lock in their 2C behind Nate dawg. Flames get a decent center prospect and the all-important first round pick. Flames also retain for the final year of this deal. I think this is a good Bo Horvat comparable.

Vladar is weird, he hasn't been great, and I personally don't know how the Flames approach this other than he gets traded to a team desperate for a goalie or placed on waivers. At this point you have to make room for Wolf.

I personally think the most valuable commodity on this roster is Hanifin. 26-year old top 4 defenseman with 600 games under their belt don't come around very often and I think he can bring in a very good return, especially with an extension included. I believe Freidman mentioned the Coyotes have been looking into Hanifin for about a week, don't know if that's still the case, but I think a trade makes sense. Barnburner mentions Dylan Guenther would be a great return (it would), but let's be real, no shot Arizona is looking to move him. I think it's the same format as Chychrun and Hamonic (Islanders & Flames) trades.

Let me know what you all think.

The Flames in the end bring in:

Calum Ritchie
Seamus Casey
Alexander Holtz
Aatu Raty
Tyler Myers
Ryan Johansen
2024 Unprotected 1st
2024 Top 5 protected 1st
2x 2024 2nds
Vancouver's 2024 3rd
$7.4 Millon in cap space

Subtract:

Noah Hanifin (extended)
Elias Lindholm (extended)
Dan Vladar
Chris Tanev
Nikita Zadorov
Dillion Dube
Vancouver's 2024 3rd

Trades

CGY

Myers, Tyler
Räty, Aatu
2024 3rd round pick (VAN)

VAN

Zadorov, Nikita ($1,750,000 retained)

CGY

Any team or waivers

ANA

Vladar, Daniel

CGY

Casey, Seamus [Reserve List]
Holtz, Alexander

NJD

Dubé, Dillon
Tanev, Christopher ($1,500,000 retained)
2024 3rd round pick (VAN)

CGY

Johansen, Ryan
Ritchie, Calum [Reserve List]
2024 1st round pick (COL)

COL

Lindholm, Elias ($1,350,000 retained)

CGY

2024 1st round pick (ARI)
2024 2nd round pick (ARI)
2024 2nd round pick (FLA)

Additional Details:

Top 5 protected pick.

ARI

Hanifin, Noah

Additional Details:

Extension included

Retained Salary Transactions

Nikita Zadorov: $1,750,000 (46.67%)
Christopher Tanev: $1,500,000 (133.33%)
Elias Lindholm: $1,350,000 (27.84%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$83,500,000	$76,099,166	$0	$1,077,500	$7,400,834

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Huberdeau, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 8	Johansen, Ryan $4,000,000$4,000,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Holtz, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2
Zary, Connor $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LW, C RFA - 2	Kadri, Nazem $7,000,000$7,000,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Pospisil, Martin $775,000$775,000 RW RFA - 1
Coleman, Blake $4,900,000$4,900,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 4	Backlund, Mikael $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Mangiapane, Andrew $5,800,000$5,800,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Ruzicka, Adam $762,500$762,500 LW, C UFA - 1	Sharangovich, Yegor $3,100,000$3,100,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Duehr, Walker $825,000$825,000 RW UFA - 2
Greer, AJ $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Weegar, MacKenzie $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD UFA - 3	Markström, Jacob $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Solovyov, Ilya $828,333$828,333 LD RFA - 1	DeSimone, Nick $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1	Wolf, Dustin $813,333$813,333 ($15,000$15K) G RFA - 1
Gilbert, Dennis $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Kylington, Oliver $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
		Rooney, Kevin $1,300,000$1,300,000 C UFA - 1

Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:20 p.m.

Smitty426

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There is no way Jersey does this. They wont give up Holtz nvm Casey, who leads the NCAA is scoring i believe.

Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:27 p.m.

Schuyler

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You're out of your mind on that devils trade Casey tied for the lead of NCAA scoring as a 19 year old D plus Holtz on top of that

Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:28 p.m.

BigShoots

Big Shoots

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I would not pay that for Zadorov from Canucks POV. If you are gonna trade Raty and picks it should be for a better player.

Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:29 p.m.

dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

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The sharks GM asked for holtz too. He was told that if it was holtz, it was 1 for 1 for meier. You're not getting him or casey, let alone both

Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:30 p.m.

oilfire

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I agree that in general, a players stock drops when they ask for a trade. I don't see it being very detrimental in this instance.

First off, he's a UFA on a struggling team, he was already being pursued prior to him officially asking. He was basically on the market already, all he did was make it official.

Second, him asking out has generated a lot of interest, competition may have driven the price up. At the very least it let Conroy walk from the table knowing deals will be there and will likely keep coming in.

Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:30 p.m.

dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

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AZ isn't making that move. Giving up 3 years of chych at 4 for 1 year of hanafin makes you look bad as an org. Also UFA's rarely if ever get moved with extensions in place

Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:31 p.m.

dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

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Holtz is also in the top 6 now as per the practice lines

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Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:43 p.m.

Epic_Ninja_Dude

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Canucks decline. Raty was the key piece in the Horvat trade, Vancovuer management is very high on him. Don't see him getting dealt unless it's for a major impact player, which Zadorov is not, especially with his value being diminished by a trade request. Canucks would also move either Beauvillier/Garland instead of Myers to create cap space for a deal like this. They have too many wingers so moving one doesn't hurt but they don't have any expendable defencemen to be moving out. Myers has played the best he has in a Canucks jersey this year, and he's a veteran presence and key leader in the locker room.

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Nov. 14, 2023 at 12:43 a.m.

TJTwolf

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Avs decline because they can't afford the extended Lindholm and won't gve that up for a rental.

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Nov. 14, 2023 at 2:16 a.m.

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audiodave

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Vancouver will give you a 3rd and 5th for Zadorov, 50% retained. He's expensive for a 3rd pair defenseman.

Nov. 14, 2023 at 2:44 a.m.

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TyeZerker

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Devils still dont have cap to fit Tanev and Dube. Plus your not getting 2 high end propsects for a 33 year old dman. Devils decline and counter with Tanev at 50% and the return will the same as Zadorov. So a 3rd, late pick and maybe a B tier Propsect. Keep in Mind that Tanev will be 3rd pairing.

Nov. 14, 2023 at 7:34 a.m.

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NHLfan10506

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Would take a lot more to acquire Casey or Holtz…let alone both of them.

Nov. 14, 2023 at 8:29 a.m.

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mbaer84

matt

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The Canucks do not like to play D on their offside so trading a RHD for an LHD isnt going to help them really.

Nov. 14, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.

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Android_H_Jones

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Quoting: Bruhimi

Lindholm to Colorado makes so much sense to me, I saw another ACGM with this trade but without Johansen. This trade would result in Lindholm extending as well, and the Avs lock in their 2C behind Nate dawg.

Colorado really can't afford Lindholm unless he's willing to take a pretty significant discount to stay. Keep in mind, Landeskog (theoretically) will be coming of LTIR and the Toews extension kicks in next season. As it is, they have 13 players signed for next season and a little over $2.5m to fill out the rest of their roster.

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