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Retention due to Rentals

Created by: Redmile04
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 17, 2023
Published: Nov. 17, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Let's not be too gready. Lol
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Timmins, Conor
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
  4. 2024 5th round pick (CHI)
TOR
  1. Zadorov, Nikita
Additional Details:
50% Retention
2.
CGY
  1. Johnson, Kent
  2. Sillinger, Cole
  3. 2024 1st round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Lindholm, Elias
Additional Details:
50% Retention
3.
CGY
  1. Neighbours, Jake
  2. Scandella, Marco
  3. 2024 1st round pick (STL)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
STL
  1. Hanifin, Noah
Additional Details:
50% Retention
4.
CGY
  1. Niemeläinen, Markus
  2. 2024 5th round pick (EDM)
5.
CGY
  1. Joshua, Dakota
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
  3. 2024 4th round pick (NJD)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$83,500,000$70,686,666$0$2,912,500$12,813,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
RFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$835,833$835,833
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 17, 2023 at 8:28 p.m.
#1
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Leafs need to add klingberg but you can hold the retention
Nov. 17, 2023 at 8:30 p.m.
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So you dont wanna send either Dmen to NJ? who can offer better than STL or Van, Hell even NJ can beat that Leafs offer.
Nov. 17, 2023 at 8:32 p.m.
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Columbus says, “Johnny has his number…we’ll call in July. Thanks”.

(Probably)
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Nov. 17, 2023 at 8:32 p.m.
#4
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I dont think CBJ takes that, although they are having a bit of an identity crisis
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Nov. 17, 2023 at 8:46 p.m.
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Quoting: TyeZerker
So you dont wanna send either Dmen to NJ? who can offer better than STL or Van, Hell even NJ can beat that Leafs offer.


any team “can” beat any offer. It depends how badly that team wants a player. & frankly I don’t think any GM wants Zadorov more than Treliving. I’d be shocked if he doesn’t end up in Toronto at this point
Nov. 17, 2023 at 8:52 p.m.
#6
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You’re selling way low on Tanev and Zadorov

Don’t you see all the Rumors, Teams and AGMs for those 2 guys!?

CLB will balk and quickly decline that Trade for Lindholm

Hanifin Trade is okay. Love the idea of Neighbors as a Flame, but a Left Winger isn’t really a need for us

EDM doesn’t have the Cap Space for Vladar
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Nov. 17, 2023 at 8:53 p.m.
#7
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Edited Nov. 17, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.
Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
any team “can” beat any offer. It depends how badly that team wants a player. & frankly I don’t think any GM wants Zadorov more than Treliving. I’d be shocked if he doesn’t end up in Toronto at this point

Would you be shocked if he didn’t get Traded out of Calgary at all!? Because I wouldn’t
Nov. 17, 2023 at 9:35 p.m.
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Can’t see Doug selling futures for a rental this year after his interview with Seravelli
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Nov. 17, 2023 at 10:04 p.m.
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Firm no thanks. The Blues would sooner go for Zadorov at those prices.
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Nov. 17, 2023 at 10:24 p.m.
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
I dont think CBJ takes that, although they are having a bit of an identity crisis


They'd be making a mistake sending Kent alone for Lindholm
Nov. 17, 2023 at 11:59 p.m.
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If Hanafin is a rental no chance the blues do that
Nov. 18, 2023 at 9:43 a.m.
#12
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Don’t see the blues going for that rn
Especially without an extension in place
Nov. 18, 2023 at 12:23 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Would you be shocked if he didn’t get Traded out of Calgary at all!? Because I wouldn’t


At this point it’d be shocking to see him not moved. After his comments about his teammates play, Calgary’s poor performance this year, and the fact that he’s a pending UFA it seems more than likely that he’s moved. Plus there’s already 3 teams that are highly motivated to acquire him, only likely to be more before the deadline as he’s exactly what playoff teams look for in a rental. Then there’s the matter of the trade request and his agents comments… sure seems like he’ll be moved
Nov. 18, 2023 at 2:38 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 18, 2023 at 2:44 p.m.
Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
At this point it’d be shocking to see him not moved. After his comments about his teammates play, Calgary’s poor performance this year, and the fact that he’s a pending UFA it seems more than likely that he’s moved. Plus there’s already 3 teams that are highly motivated to acquire him, only likely to be more before the deadline as he’s exactly what playoff teams look for in a rental. Then there’s the matter of the trade request and his agents comments… sure seems like he’ll be moved

Well just so we’re clear, Zadorov never himself came out and said outright, “I don’t want to be here anymore and I want out”

All he said is they’re discussing it as an option, because although he would love to remain and play as a Flame for life, there is a business side to the NHL, which only happened after management put contract talks on now hold

Like the character man he seems to be, Zadorov’s simply going with and supporting his Snake of an Agents strategy to negotiate the best deal for himself. His Agent implied, maybe he’d be better off elsewhere because management doesn’t seem to appreciate or value Zadorov enough, which although I don’t like his agents tactic, I don’t blame them for feeling that way and will explain that further below, but it’s an absolutely greasy tactic to go public like that

Since when is calling out guys in the locker room or apologizing to the fans for their poor play any indication he doesn’t want to be there!? In fact, that’s what Team Leaders and/or Captains should be doing. Somebody’s gotta hold them accountable and answer to the fans other than the Coach, who really can’t or shouldn’t say those things

My understanding is that they were close to an extension, but ownership said let’s pump the breaks on all contract extensions for now till we can get this ship back on course

Out of all Players, Zadorov is the only one to show any passion or commitment to the City of Calgary and Flames Organization, saying he loves the City and wants to be a Flame FOR LIFE. He’s also been playing very well this season, especially offensively, so when you tell him the contract is off the table and when your Power Play is extremely weak and guys like Hanifin & Weegar are under performing in a game and Zadorov isn’t promoted or called upon to help out, yeah I would be frustrated too, but it was his agent who implied it might be time for Zadorov to move, as again, a negotiation tactic

We’ll see what happens, but I see Hanifin & Tanev moving on for sure, which would open up more ice time, $$$ and opportunity for Zadorov, which is whatnot wants and if he gets it, he may just extend long-term

Zadorov is the type of guy we need and should keep, but if we’re not able to reconcile and move forward, so be it and like you mentioned, we should get a very good return for him, given the amount of interest we’re receiving for him

Here’s Zadorov’s actual words after the very next game when his agent Milstein put out that Tweet:

Zadorov discusses his Agents Tweet
 
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