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NHL Worst Value Players according to The Athletic

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Team: 2023-24 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 3, 2023
Published: Dec. 3, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Relative to salary

1. Nicklas Backstrom (C-WAS)
2. Seth Jones (RD-CHI)
3. Marc-Edouard Vlasic (RD-SJS)
4. Colton Parayko (RD-STL)
5. Cam Fowler (LD-ANA)

6. Evgeny Kuznetsov (C-WAS)
7. Patrik Laine (RW-CBJ)
8. Jonathan Huberdeau (LW-CGY)
9. T.J. Oshie (RW-WAS)
10. Josh Anderson (RW-MTL)

11. Alex Ovechkin (LW-WAS)
12. Jakob Silfverberg (RW-ANA)
13. Nate Schmidt (RD-WPG)
14. Erik Cernak (RD-TBL)
15. Jamie Benn (LW-DAL)

16. Mikhail Sergachev (LD-TBL)
17. Tyler Johnson (RW-CHI)
18. Brendan Gallagher (RW-MTL)
19. Ryan Pulock (RD-NYI)
20. Samuel Girard (LD-COL)

21. Kevin Labanc (RW-SJS)
22. Andrew Copp (C-DET)
23. Christian Dvorak (C-MTL)
24. Mike Hoffman (RW-SJS)
25. Darnell Nurse (LD-EDM)

26. Josh Norris (C-OTT)
27. Dmitry Orlov (LD-CAR)
28. Dylan Cozens (C-BUF)
29. Anders Lee (LW-NYI)
30. Connor Murphy (RD-CHI)

31. Johnny Gaudreau (LW-CBJ)
32. Tyler Myers (RD-VAN)
33. Josh Manson (RD-COL)
34. Mattias Samuelsson (LD-BUF)
35. Andreas Athanasiou (LW-CHI)

36. Zach Werenski (LD-CBJ)
37. John Klingberg (RD-TOR)
38. Pierre-Luc Dubois (C-LAK)
39. Erik Gudbranson (RD-CBJ)
40. Nick Leddy (LD-STL)

41. Torey Krug (LD-STL)
42. Adam Henrique (LW-ANA)
43. Jean-Gabriel Pageau (C-NYI)
44. Victor Olofsson (RW-BUF)
45. Nikita Zaitsev (RD-CHI)

46. Matt Dumba (RD-ARI)
47. Mathew Barzal (C-NYI)
48. Tyler Seguin (C-DAL)
49. Barclay Goodrow (LW-NYR)
50. Ryan Strome (C-ANA)
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$144,950,000$0$0-$61,450,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$9,200,000$9,200,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$9,500,000$9,500,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C, RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$9,500,000$9,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$5,625,000$5,625,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$5,200,000$5,200,000
RD
UFA - 8
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$8,500,000$8,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 8
Logo of the New York Islanders
$6,150,000$6,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$4,725,000$4,725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1

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Dec. 3, 2023 at 10:40 p.m.
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Look at that caps core…
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Dec. 3, 2023 at 10:43 p.m.
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Seems fair overall. More than half are solid players, but overpaid, others just caught their respective GMs the day before they quit sniffing glue.
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Dec. 3, 2023 at 10:45 p.m.
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Look at that caps core…


Yeah, am guessing the author doesn't like the Caps much
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Dec. 3, 2023 at 11:11 p.m.
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Cernak and Pulock shouldn't be here at all. Jones is obviously overpaid but he definitely shouldn't be 2. Over Vlasic is wild
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Dec. 3, 2023 at 11:12 p.m.
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C,mon Leafs...Please
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I couldn't find the article
Dec. 3, 2023 at 11:14 p.m.
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Cernak and Pulock shouldn't be here at all. Jones is obviously overpaid but he definitely shouldn't be 2. Over Vlasic is wild


So its a net of salary

Backstrom makes 9.2m...is worth 1.3m = -7.9m


1. Nicklas Backstrom (C-WAS)….....-7.9m
2. Seth Jones (RD-CHI)…..................-6.3m
3. Marc-Edouard Vlasic (RD-SJS)….-6.2m
4. Colton Parayko (RD-STL).........….-5.7m
5. Cam Fowler (LD-ANA)…...............-5.7m

6. Evgeny Kuznetsov (C-WAS).....….-5.6m
7. Patrik Laine (RW-CBJ)…...............-5.4m
8. Jonathan Huberdeau (LW-CGY).-5.1m
9. T.J. Oshie (RW-WAS)…..................-4.9m
10. Josh Anderson (RW-MTL)….......-4.7m
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Dec. 3, 2023 at 11:15 p.m.
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I couldn't find the article


NHL Player Cards: Atlantic Division
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Dec. 3, 2023 at 11:22 p.m.
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I Love J Boqvist
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Quoting: imawesome
Cernak and Pulock shouldn't be here at all. Jones is obviously overpaid but he definitely shouldn't be 2. Over Vlasic is wild


On a small sample size things will happen like this for sure
Dec. 3, 2023 at 11:25 p.m.
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Lets go fishing
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The amount of former Jets on this list makes me think Chevy might just know what he's doing. Schmidt is on there (quite rightly lol) but Chevy didn't sign him and he's been playing alright this year even if he's getting bought out this summer.

7. Patrik Laine (RW-CBJ)
13. Nate Schmidt (RD-WPG)
22. Andrew Copp (C-DET)
32. Tyler Myers (RD-VAN)
38. Pierre-Luc Dubois (C-LAK)

No one should ever buy a player from Kevin Chevaldayoff, you're walking into a bullet every time.
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Dec. 3, 2023 at 11:32 p.m.
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Can’t believe Campbell isn’t on here lol
Dec. 3, 2023 at 11:36 p.m.
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Quoting: RationalHockeyFan
The amount of former Jets on this list makes me think Chevy might just know what he's doing. Schmidt is on there (quite rightly lol) but Chevy didn't sign him and he's been playing alright this year even if he's getting bought out this summer.

7. Patrik Laine (RW-CBJ)
13. Nate Schmidt (RD-WPG)
22. Andrew Copp (C-DET)
32. Tyler Myers (RD-VAN)
38. Pierre-Luc Dubois (C-LAK)

No one should ever buy a player from Kevin Chevaldayoff, you're walking into a bullet every time.


If Wheeler still had his old deal, he would be top-5 on this list.

Chiarot, Trouba, Hayes, Roslovic aren't too far off either...all fairly negative
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Dec. 3, 2023 at 11:37 p.m.
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Can’t believe Campbell isn’t on here lol


no goalies
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Dec. 3, 2023 at 11:42 p.m.
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Where's Tavares on this?

People keep telling me how bad of a contract he is... But he's not here and Goodrow is, so it shouldn't be THAT bad
Dec. 4, 2023 at 12:22 a.m.
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Way too much attention paid to this clown, who doesn't watch much hockey or understand it.
Dec. 4, 2023 at 1:03 a.m.
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It's nice to hear people stop ragging on the KK deal
Dec. 4, 2023 at 9:21 a.m.
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Where's Tavares on this?

People keep telling me how bad of a contract he is... But he's not here and Goodrow is, so it shouldn't be THAT bad


Tavares
Market Value: $10.3m
Salary: $11.0
Net: -$0.7

Goodrow
Market Value: Min
Salary: $3.6
Net: -$2.8
Dec. 4, 2023 at 9:22 a.m.
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It's nice to hear people stop ragging on the KK deal


Kotkaniemi
Market Value: $4.7m
Salary: $4.8m
Net: -$0.1m
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Dec. 4, 2023 at 9:23 a.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Tavares
Market Value: $10.3m
Salary: $11.0
Net: -$0.7

Goodrow
Market Value: Min
Salary: $3.6
Net: -$2.8


That Tavares contract actually isn't as bad as I thought it would be...

Especially considering all the "Worst contracts team" I always see including him
Dec. 4, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.
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Way too much attention paid to this clown, who doesn't watch much hockey or understand it.


Its data...the best analytics people understand the limitations of the models

Its just one input of many
Dec. 4, 2023 at 9:26 a.m.
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That Tavares contract actually isn't as bad as I thought it would be...

Especially considering all the "Worst contracts team" I always see including him


If you had said in year 1 that Tavares would be near full value at year 6 of deal....people would be happy with it
Dec. 4, 2023 at 9:32 a.m.
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If you had said in year 1 that Tavares would be near full value at year 6 of deal....people would be happy with it


Exactly, especially considering how he's still scoring goals...
Dec. 4, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.
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Its data...the best analytics people understand the limitations of the models

Its just one input of many


Heh. His model is NOT data. It's a subjective formula. Two very different things. And I'm fairly sure he thumbs the scale, too.
Dec. 4, 2023 at 12:20 p.m.
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I want Gourde back
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
So its a net of salary

Backstrom makes 9.2m...is worth 1.3m = -7.9m


1. Nicklas Backstrom (C-WAS)….....-7.9m
2. Seth Jones (RD-CHI)…..................-6.3m
3. Marc-Edouard Vlasic (RD-SJS)….-6.2m
4. Colton Parayko (RD-STL).........….-5.7m
5. Cam Fowler (LD-ANA)…...............-5.7m

6. Evgeny Kuznetsov (C-WAS).....….-5.6m
7. Patrik Laine (RW-CBJ)…...............-5.4m
8. Jonathan Huberdeau (LW-CGY).-5.1m
9. T.J. Oshie (RW-WAS)…..................-4.9m
10. Josh Anderson (RW-MTL)….......-4.7m


Jones has gotta be worth now than 3.2, and I don't even want to know what he values Cernak at
Dec. 4, 2023 at 12:25 p.m.
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What are the numbers on Nurse?
Dec. 4, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Kotkaniemi
Market Value: $4.7m
Salary: $4.8m
Net: -$0.1m


And that's just from last year if I remember right... he's improved his game since last year
 
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