@celtics21 thoughts?

Not nearly enough for Pettersson to a division rival

No goalie is getting Elias Lindholm 50% retained and a 1st. If any BOS fan is saying that...it's just insanely crazy.

You realize that we're also sending toffoli to a divisional team right.

2nd=Bahl

2 mill retained Toffoli=Unretained Pettersson

Boston would be giving up other assets to calgary, I just didn't include them because swaps between boston and calgary don't impact this ACGM.

NJD would be retaining 50% of lindholm to reduce the cost of Ullmark and save calgary money and a retention slot in a teardown for Hanifin+Markstrom+Dube+Vladar+Tanev+Mangiapane etc

You forgot to add at least a 1st on NJ side for Pettersson. Hes worth more than that. Even without the 2nd involved we wouldnt do it

What’s Calgary getting? Did you forget that part or am I missing something.

Pettersson=1st+3rd imo
Toffoli 50%=1st+3rd imo
Bahl=2nd

If you would rather futures it can be a 3 team deal with anyone who wants a winger.

Pens aren't gonna sell this year and this isn't the package we would want for Pettersson

Toffoli+Bahl would be a hockey trade not a selling move.

I can replace with picks/prospects if you want futures.

Stick toffoli on your PP

It may be "Hockey move" but makes Pittsburgh defense way worse and would mean we are starting a rebuild which the way things are going won't be this season. If Pettersson is moved it will be for futures whenever the rebuild starts

I’d say an improvement on your power play and offensively could offset that no?

If you do decide to rebuild tho I’d once again be happy to send futures

Penguins aren't trading petterson for that lol. Even if you drop the 2nd and added a pick on jerseys side.
He's been our best shutdown dman. Not sending him to a rival for an expiring winger, and a bottom pair dman

It would not, Losing our best DFD and #1 LD is not worth a Improvement to the PP and offense in a "Hockey trade",Like i said it would be for futures if we sell

1st+3rd+Clarke

Then my offer would be 1st+3rd+Clarke

Still wouldn't move him RN, Pens are in the buy window and not selling.
Offer is prolly a tad Low if the pens were to move him RN, he would be in extremly high demand as he has term left at a affordable cap hit. Price would most likely be a 1st and a prospect like Seamus Casey

Casey would be 1 for 1 in a Pettersson trade. (I value him at a 1st+3rd on his own)

He’d have to be a 10 mill player to provide that kind of surplus value.

I have him at 7 mill, which still is 6 mill in surplus value over 2 years. Hence 1st+3rd+Clarke

Remind me what florida gave up for Chiarot last year?
Who is a replacement level and was on an expiring deal

Remind me what Orlov Lindholm Gavrikov and Chychrun got?

1 overpay does not set a market.

But I will happily offer Ethan Edwards+4th+2024 1st for 1.75 million dollar Pettersson if that’s what you want to set as your comparable

Basically it’s Ullmark for a #1 plus 2.4m in retention in another deal

I think it fundamentally works as a construct if Boston can flip that 1 for relative value

Yep. And I’m sure there’d be some condition where if Ullmark achieves such and such we give another pick like in the kuemper trade with the 3rd for a cup win

Hes would be in high demand if the pens were to put him OTB, some desperate team come deadline would pay that price

Meh, LD isn’t usually a position teams are desperate on and the big fish there is Hanifin.