Kaliyev may want out

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Created by: KINGS67

Team: 2023-24 Los Angeles Kings

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 24, 2024

Published: Jan. 24, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Unfortunate that it might have come to this. TMAC has killed this kids development.

No I don’t know the needs for teams
What can a return look like? I’m hoping for another guy that needs a change of scenery.

These are players that I’d hope kings can get back or something similar.

Trades

LAK

Pinto, Shane

OTT

2025 2nd round pick (LAK)

Additional Details:

Kaliyev

LAK

Frost, Morgan

PHI

Kaliyev
‘25 2nd

LAK

Robertson, Nicholas

Additional Details:

Not the biggest fan of his

TOR

Kaliyev

LAK

Additional Details:

Not saying for both but maybe a deal could be made with MTL

MTL

Kaliyev

LAK

Guentzel, Jake

PIT

Kaliyev, Arthur
2024 1st round pick (LAK)
2025 3rd round pick (LAK)

Retained Salary Transactions

Ivan Provorov: $2,025,000 (30%)

Termination Fees

Mike Richards: $700,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
27	$83,500,000	$91,634,167	$0	$4,597,500	-$8,134,167

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kempe, Adrian $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Kopitar, Anze $10,000,000$10,000,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Fiala, Kevin $7,875,000$7,875,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 6
Moore, Trevor $4,200,000$4,200,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $8,500,000$8,500,000 C UFA - 8
Grundström, Carl $1,300,000$1,300,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Danault, Phillip $5,500,000$5,500,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Laferriere, Alex $875,000$875,000 RW RFA - 2
Byfield, Quinton $894,167$894,167 ($2,650,000$3M) LW, C RFA - 1	Anderson-Dolan, Jaret $775,000$775,000 C, LW, RW RFA - 1	Lewis, Trevor $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 1
Fagemo, Samuel $775,000$775,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Pinto, Shane $775,000$775,000 C RFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 1	Frost, Morgan $2,100,000$2,100,000 C RFA - 2
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Monahan, Sean $1,985,000$1,985,000 ($15,000$15K) C, LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Gavrikov, Vladislav $5,875,000$5,875,000 LD NMC UFA - 2	Doughty, Drew $11,000,000$11,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Talbot, Cam $1,000,000$1,000,000 ($1,000,000$1M) G NTC UFA - 1
Anderson, Michael $4,125,000$4,125,000 LD UFA - 8	Roy, Matt $3,150,000$3,150,000 RD UFA - 1	Rittich, David $875,000$875,000 G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Clarke, Brandt $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3
Englund, Andreas $1,000,000$1,000,000 LD UFA - 2	Spence, Jordan $820,000$820,000 ($82,500$82K) RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Lizotte, Blake $1,675,000$1,675,000 C RFA - 1	Arvidsson, Viktor $4,250,000$4,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
		Copley, Pheonix $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1

Jan. 24 at 11:07 a.m.

AlakHul

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Monahan for Kaliyev, but yeah its sad for his development.

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Jan. 24 at 11:09 a.m.

KINGS67

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Quoting: AlakHul

Monahan for Kaliyev, but yeah its sad for his development.

I thought about that.

Kaliyev is younger but monahan is the more experienced guy with the better stats.

I’d say picks need to be involved probably. I also was looking into Harris.

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Jan. 24 at 11:10 a.m.

BillytheKid3

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Sens decline that unfortunately.

Pinto is part of their long term plan. He's not on the trading block.

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Jan. 24 at 11:12 a.m.

KINGS67

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Quoting: BillytheKid3

Sens decline that unfortunately.

Pinto is part of their long term plan. He's not on the trading block.

Yeah I wasn’t sure

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Jan. 24 at 11:14 a.m.

Black61

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Is he still the lazy bugger he was in junior?

Jan. 24 at 11:14 a.m.

BillytheKid3

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Quoting: KINGS67

Yeah I wasn’t sure

I would take Kaliyev in a second but the pieces would have to be different.

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Jan. 24 at 11:19 a.m.

KINGS67

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Quoting: BillytheKid3

I would take Kaliyev in a second but the pieces would have to be different.

Who could possible a reasonable target?
Chychrun possibly

Jan. 24 at 11:19 a.m.

ricochetii

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Ylonen perhaps?

Jan. 24 at 11:20 a.m.

palhal

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Swapping Kaliyev for Monahan looks like a logical swap. A contender trading a young player for a more established UFA veteran.
Kaliyev for Robertson seems to a logical/similar swap, though I believe Robertson has upside.

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Jan. 24 at 11:21 a.m.

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Leafs will say maybe to this

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Jan. 24 at 11:22 a.m.

#11

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I would do either of Harris or Struble for Kaliyev, I feel like Monahan has more value

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Jan. 24 at 11:22 a.m.

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Quoting: palhal

Yeah, I doubt kings just sell him for peanuts. It has to be a swap for another player who definitely needs a change of scenery or for a more established guy on the trade block.

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Jan. 24 at 11:25 a.m.

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KINGS67

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Quoting: Campabee

I would do either of Harris or Struble for Kaliyev, I feel like Monahan has more value

I’m sure kings could add. Turcotte MAYBE could be in the deal.

If the Kings are interested in Harris to maybe build out the left side of the defense and pair with Spence if he’s not traded too.

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Jan. 24 at 11:28 a.m.

#14

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Quoting: KINGS67

I’m sure kings could add. Turcotte MAYBE could be in the deal.

If the Kings are interested in Harris to maybe build out the left side of the defense and pair with Spence if he’s not traded too.

Struble is the better of the two IMO, he has harris' defensive abilities and physicality but is also a better offensive threat.

That would work, Turcotte + Kaliyev for Monahan

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Jan. 24 at 11:29 a.m.

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KINGS67

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Quoting: Campabee

Struble is the better of the two IMO, he has harris' defensive abilities and physicality but is also a better offensive threat.

That would work, Turcotte + Kaliyev for Monahan

I’m really not sure LA would trade turcotte.

But MTL seems like a good trading partner imo.

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Jan. 24 at 11:32 a.m.

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Quoting: KINGS67

I thought about that.

Kaliyev is younger but monahan is the more experienced guy with the better stats.

I’d say picks need to be involved probably. I also was looking into Harris.

Honestly there's likely a deal that can be struck involving both. Add to Kaliyev but still definitely in the realm of possibility.

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Jan. 24 at 11:33 a.m.

#17

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Pens decline. Not nearly enough.

Jan. 24 at 11:34 a.m.

#18

KINGS67

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Quoting: PensGMwannabe

Pens decline. Not nearly enough.

That’s just the base of the trade. Not sure what else would be needed whether it’s picks/prospects

Jan. 24 at 11:47 a.m.

#19

BillytheKid3

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Quoting: KINGS67

Who could possible a reasonable target?
Chychrun possibly

Chychrun may be available but they would need a RHD worked in there (Spence or Roy [with an extension]) the picks would need to be balanced out also.

I would be fine to trade Chychrun to the West Coast as I don't want to see him in the Atlantic lol.

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Jan. 24 at 11:55 a.m.

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Quoting: BillytheKid3

Yeah, it’s tough with Roy. Not sure he’ll get traded this deadline. Id say more offseason deal.

Kaliyev too could be offseason deal.

Jan. 24 at 11:57 a.m.

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KINGS67

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Quoting: BillytheKid3

Maybe something like Kaliyev. Roy(extension in the offseason). For chychrun and ‘24 2nd ‘24 4th. Idk.

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Jan. 24 at 12:03 p.m.

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BillytheKid3

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Quoting: KINGS67

Maybe something like Kaliyev. Roy(extension in the offseason). For chychrun and ‘24 2nd ‘24 4th. Idk.

Sens fans would debate this heavily. Staios first move as the Sens GM needs to be a good one. We're arm chair GM's for a reason.... lol

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Jan. 24 at 12:05 p.m.

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id b happier to trade harris than monahan but im sure a deal can be made

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Jan. 24 at 12:14 p.m.

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Speaking of Philadelphia, Bobby Brink and Tyson Foerster would be guys to look into.

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Jan. 24 at 12:15 p.m.

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KINGS67

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Speaking of Philadelphia, Bobby Brink and Tyson Foerster would be guys to look into.

Yeah.

I think a few teams are matches for LA.

MTL. OTT. PHI probably being the biggest.

Can’t send Kaliyev to a west coast team. Especially a team like EDM. He scores 40-50G on a team like that.

Foerester would be a good one.

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