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Potential Jake destinations

Created by: Imagine874859

Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 31, 2024

Published: Jan. 31, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

To be quite honest, I think we should look into signing Jake to a contract before we trade him, or let him agree to a contract with the team hes being traded to. That would up his value. A sign a trade basically. Below are teams that I think could be interested in Jake if he were to be put on the market. I went ahead and made some mock offers to show what'd i'd personally want, but please leave a comment explaining if the fit doesn't make sense and provide what could be on the table if he were to be a fit. Reported asking price is a 1st, youngish NHL ready player, and a prospect. Some of these might be lopsided in value so other pieces can be added to make it more even. These are just the base of the trade. Retention can also be on the table.

Below I'm gonna mark off what teams dont fit for Guentzel (just for myself so I know for future Guentzel trade ideas):
COL - X
BOS - X
DET - X
TBL - X
WPG - X

Trades

1.

PIT

DeBrusk, Jake
Pelosi, Christopher [Reserve List]
2025 1st round pick (BOS)

BOS

Guentzel, Jake

Additional Details:

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

2.

PIT

O'Connor, Logan
Ritchie, Calum [Reserve List]
2024 1st round pick (COL)

COL

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

3.

PIT

Bertucci, Tristan [Reserve List]
Steel, Sam
2024 1st round pick (DAL)

DAL

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

4.

PIT

Berggren, Jonatan
Buchelnikov, Dmitri [Reserve List]
2024 1st round pick (DET)

DET

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

5.

PIT

Foegele, Warren
Holloway, Dylan
2024 1st round pick (EDM)

EDM

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

6.

PIT

Molendyk, Tanner
Trenin, Yakov
2025 1st round pick (TBL)

NSH

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

7.

PIT

Goodrow, Barclay
Lafrenière, Alexis
2024 1st round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

Division rivals would have to pay more.

NYR

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

8.

PIT

Goyette, David
Tolvanen, Eeli
2024 1st round pick (SEA)

SEA

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

9.

PIT

Duke, Dylan [Reserve List]
Jeannot, Tanner
2026 1st round pick (TBL)

TBL

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

10.

PIT

Järnkrok, Calle
Minten, Fraser
2024 1st round pick (TOR)

TOR

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

11.

PIT

Kuzmenko, Andrei
Räty, Aatu
2024 1st round pick (VAN)

VAN

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

12.

PIT

Roy, Nicolas
Sapovaliv, Matyas
2024 1st round pick (VGK)

VGK

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

13.

PIT

Appleton, Mason
Lucius, Chaz
2024 1st round pick (WPG)

WPG

Jake Guentzel

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $916,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Jeff Petry: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
40	$83,500,000	$115,984,343	$0	$1,162,500	-$32,484,343

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 5
Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
O'Connor, Drew $925,000$925,000 LW UFA - 2	Eller, Lars $2,450,000$2,450,000 C UFA - 2	Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 1
Harkins, Jansen $850,000$850,000 LW UFA - 1	Acciari, Noel $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	White, Colin $775,000$775,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Foegele, Warren $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Steel, Sam $850,000$850,000 C, LW RFA - 1	DeBrusk, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Holloway, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($650,000$650K) LW, C RFA - 1	Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	O'Connor, Logan $1,050,000$1,050,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Trenin, Yakov $1,700,000$1,700,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Goyette, David $923,333$923,333 ($80,000$80K) C RFA - 3	Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
Lafrenière, Alexis $2,325,000$2,325,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Minten, Fraser $845,833$845,833 C, LW RFA - 3	Jeannot, Tanner $2,665,000$2,665,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Tolvanen, Eeli $1,450,000$1,450,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Räty, Aatu $836,667$836,667 ($82,500$82K) C RFA - 2	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Kuzmenko, Andrei $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Roy, Nicolas $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW UFA - 4	Appleton, Mason $2,166,667$2,166,667 RW UFA - 2
	Sapovaliv, Matyas $831,667$831,667 C RFA - 3
	Lucius, Chaz $894,167$894,167 ($350,000$350K) C RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Graves, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 6	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Jarry, Tristan $5,375,000$5,375,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Letang, Kris $6,100,000$6,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Nedeljkovic, Alex $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $825,000$825,000 LD RFA - 1	Ruhwedel, Chad $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1
Molendyk, Tanner $950,000$950,000 LD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Nieto, Matt $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
		Ludvig, John $775,000$775,000 LD RFA - 2

Jan. 31 at 12:23 p.m.

#1

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I think the Avs would like Guentzel, however they have no room on their wings for him and no cap room to re-sign him unless landeskog retired. So he’s not really a fit

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Jan. 31 at 12:24 p.m.

#2

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Quoting: ItzHusker

I think the Avs would like Guentzel, however they have no room on their wings for him and no cap room to re-sign him unless landeskog retired. So he’s not really a fit

Any team would like Guentzel but, as you mention, the Avs can't afford him so it's a no-go.

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Jan. 31 at 12:26 p.m.

#3

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No thanks. Rather hold on to our assets.

Not a center and not going to pay his next contract.

Jan. 31 at 12:26 p.m.

#4

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Quoting: ItzHusker

I think the Avs would like Guentzel, however they have no room on their wings for him and no cap room to re-sign him unless landeskog retired. So he’s not really a fit

Thanks for the input.

Jan. 31 at 12:40 p.m.

#5

Tabarnak

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Of all those trades, I think Vancouver makes most sense, though it depends greatly what they want to do with their defense core.

Also, how would you be comfortable with Guentzel signing something like 7x9M ?

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Jan. 31 at 12:42 p.m.

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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy

Of all those trades, I think Vancouver makes most sense, though it depends greatly what they want to do with their defense core.

Also, how would you be comfortable with Guentzel signing something like 7x9M ?

I wouldnt mind it, but I'd hope for less than 9 mil. If he doesnt want to stay in Pittsburgh though, the price could increase because of that. That's why I'm kind of hoping we do a sign and trade because it would probably up his value a little.

Jan. 31 at 12:46 p.m.

#7

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Quoting: Imagine874859

I wouldnt mind it, but I'd hope for less than 9 mil. If he doesnt want to stay in Pittsburgh though, the price could increase because of that. That's why I'm kind of hoping we do a sign and trade because it would probably up his value a little.

The first question I should have asked is : do you think Guentzel should be part of one last big playoff push with Crosby ?
If not, then you are right in thinking his value will be at max in a trade + extansion move. Reminds me of the Bo Horvat move.

Jan. 31 at 12:47 p.m.

#8

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VAN does make sense as a Guentzel suitor if PIT will take back Kuzmenko to make the cap work. Have to think Allvin and Rutherford would love to add Jake to Petey's wing.

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Jan. 31 at 12:51 p.m.

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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy

The first question I should have asked is : do you think Guentzel should be part of one last big playoff push with Crosby ?
If not, then you are right in thinking his value will be at max in a trade + extansion move. Reminds me of the Bo Horvat move.

Yes he should 100% be part of a playoff push. However we are 6 points out of a wild card spot (games in hand though), and it just really all depends on if Guentzel is wanting to stay or not. If he doesnt I think you have to look to move him at the deadline. It would mess up the room, but you cant let him go for nothing.

Jan. 31 at 1:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Imagine874859

Yes he should 100% be part of a playoff push. However we are 6 points out of a wild card spot (games in hand though), and it just really all depends on if Guentzel is wanting to stay or not. If he doesnt I think you have to look to move him at the deadline. It would mess up the room, but you cant let him go for nothing.

I'm with you on that.
The ideal situation would be that he signs for something like 3 years in PIT, but it would not be in his financial interest.
Really hope he's part of the solution for that last push. He's such an offensive dynamo.

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Jan. 31 at 1:08 p.m.

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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy

I'm with you on that.
The ideal situation would be that he signs for something like 3 years in PIT, but it would not be in his financial interest.
Really hope he's part of the solution for that last push. He's such an offensive dynamo.

If we go on a good run before the deadline I think we start buying and making a push. Just do it without trading 1sts please lol

Jan. 31 at 1:09 p.m.

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Red Wings can't afford Guentzel.

Yzerman has to give contract extensions to Seider and Raymond this summer.

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Jan. 31 at 1:15 p.m.

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Yeah the Avs aren't a good potential match here. Any team would love Guentzel but the Avs are stacked on the wings and need help at C & G. This doesn't fix any issues for them whilst taking away a valuable depth piece in LOC, the only candidate they have for a future 2C and any chance they have to add another potential 2C at the draft, so it works out as a terrible trade for the Avs, and that's before affording him (which they can't).

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Jan. 31 at 1:18 p.m.

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Quoting: SharkTank

Red Wings can't afford Guentzel.

Yzerman has to give contract extensions to Seider and Raymond this summer.

Quoting: TJTwolf

Yeah the Avs aren't a good potential match here. Any team would love Guentzel but the Avs are stacked on the wings and need help at C & G. This doesn't fix any issues for them whilst taking away a valuable depth piece in LOC, the only candidate they have for a future 2C and any chance they have to add another potential 2C at the draft, so it works out as a terrible trade for the Avs, and that's before affording him (which they can't).

Thanks for the input.

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Jan. 31 at 1:21 p.m.

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Winnipeg says no. They need a 2C, not another expensive winger. If they spend big assets it needs to be for a player that fills the 2C or top 4 RHD hole.

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Jan. 31 at 1:24 p.m.

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COL isn’t trading for a winger and definitely not giving up Ritchie for a rental. COL needs a competent back up goalie, a middle 6 C, a 4C in that order.

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Jan. 31 at 1:25 p.m.

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Any extension Guentzel signed with TB would essentially end Stamkos time here no thanks.

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Jan. 31 at 2:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy

Of all those trades, I think Vancouver makes most sense, though it depends greatly what they want to do with their defense core.

Also, how would you be comfortable with Guentzel signing something like 7x9M ?

I think 7X9 keeps him in Pittsburgh, unless he really wants out... I have a feeling someone will offer him 7x10+

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