I really like JEE, I think he's underrated, and I think he deserved more recognition. That said, for this kind of package, I'd want something closer to Tomas Hertl than JEE

I thought about that, but honestly given JEE's age and contract, I think I'd rather have him over Hertl.

Give us Burns, Suzuki and the picks, then we can start talks

The package you're offering should be more than enough, but for MIN to consider moving JEE they'd have to evaluate the entire direction of their franchise. Are they going to do a full rebuild? Even if they frame it as a quick 'retool' does it risk alienating a guy like Kaprizov? It's a big deal for them as they've got nobody even close to replacing what Ek does.

Yeah that's a good point. For the sake of my deal I hope they'd be willing to commit to a larger rebuild as then I believe an offer like this would be VERY attractive. And I agree about JEE that's why I'm willing to pay the moon for him haha! I think that having JEE as our 2C behind Aho could be one of the last pieces needed to truly push the canes over the top for that Stanley Cup run.

Why Burns? Honestly I thought Drury would be a more attractive piece than Burns because he's young. Burns is one of the oldest players in the NHL right now, and while he is still really good, I doubt he's the difference to put Minnesota in contention to win a cup. Not trying to pick a fight, just want to understand your opinion.

I miss Burns...
I also think even for his age, hes still got a lot in the tank. He also is a more phsical defenseman which the Wild need. I know we have Bogosian and Middleton but more power is better on defense. (And it lets us ship Jon Merrill to Mars)

Contrary to the comments here.. this isn’t enough.

You’re asking for an elite 2way centre with 6 years left on his contract and arguably the beta cap hit in the league. You’ve offered a B+ prospect in Morrow, likely 2 late 2st round picks, a 2nd, a bottom 6 forward in Drury, and a bust of prospect in Suzuki that likely never plays in the NHL. That doesn’t get you Eriksson Ek.

You’ve gotta include at least 1 young roster forward with top 6 potential - so either Necas or Jarvis. A top prospect (Morrow covers that), and then likely a 1st and another conditional 1st.

Necas + Morrow + 1st + 2nd (conditional to a 1st)

The whole point of this trade was to go deep for playoff run. I get how good JEE is, but giving up good players right now is not on the table. If you were to ask for more picks or prospects, I'd honestly wheel and deal a bit. My point is that is Minnesota really in a position to say no if they were handed this offer here, let's say I even change the 2nd to a conditional first for 2026 which you could probably talk me into doing. So the offer would be Drury, Morrow, Suzuki, and potentially 3 first rounders. Despite what you're saying, I don't think a smart Minnesota management would say no to that. What do you think?

For me personally, there is no Ek deal that doesn't involve Nikishin.

His cost would be far more than it's worth, you'd be better off just shopping elsewhere.

Jarvis/Nikishin
2024 1st
2025 1st
Nadeau/Morrow
2025 2nd

That'll get the conversation going

You're really twisting my arm on this, but let's say Nikishin is on the table here. I'll offer Nikishin, Suzuki, 2024 1st, 2025 1st.
Let the negotiations begin!

Suzuki is worthless. Nikishin, 2 1sts, Nadeau, 2nd, final offer. This isn't a negotiation. You meet the price or we keep Ek.

I'm adding a 2nd to my original offer and replacing Suzuki with Drury. If the Wild would want to rebuild, this is an incredible offer. The FV of this deal far exceeds what you would get by keeping JEE now. I want JEE for cap stability and playoff push for the next several years. I know you can always keep JEE, but at what point is it just better to accept the best offer for a valuable asset and commit to the rebuild? I'd be impressed if another team beats the offer of Nikishin, Drury, 2024 1st, 2025 1st, and 2024 2nd. You're call. No skin off my bones either way

Wild don't want to rebuild, they want to keep Ek.

If that's the case then I guess it is no deal. The entire concept of the deal was predicated around the idea that the Wild would be willing to commit to a rebuild. If they aren't then no offer I could give would ever be worth it because we'd never be willing to give up current assets. Oh well :/

That’s more than Jack Eichel got

Drury and Suzuki are useless.

If you want good players you have to give up good players. You can’t just throw your junk at teams and expect them to give you their best player.

Can’t make that comparison really. There were different circumstances involving Eichel that affected his value. He had injury concerns and needed surgery before he was even gonna play - & it was a surgery that not many teams wanted to let him have because it had never been done before. It came down to 2 teams for Eichel which lowers his value. Eriksson Ek would probably have 20-23 teams in the league trying to get him which would increase his value.

Trade value isn’t just determined by a players ability, “supply and demand” are huge factors.

It’s a package more than virtually anyone has got ever.

Jarvis/Necas alone (especially Jarvis) have similar values to JEEK

Louder for the people in the back please.

This is the reason a JEEK trade makes absolutely no sense for the Wild unless it's a ridiculous overpay. I mean ridiculous, not just a slight overpay. The Wild are NOT rebuilding, whether they should or not. They're going to keep trying to make the playoffs until the major dead cap drops off. That's only 1 more year, then they'll suddenly have a bunch of cap (with players needing raises) but they'll also have some of their European prospects ready to hit the NHL, as well as guys like Faber and Rossi with more NHL experience under their belts. JEEK will still be an elite defensive center at that point and a focal point of their team. They also need to convince Kaprizov to stick around, so again, trading capable roster players in their prime for magic beans is beyond stupid.

And there also isn't a good example of a player with JEEK's cap hit and term being traded, so there isn't a comparison. Trades like that just don't happen for good reason.

JT miller, RoR.

RoR didn't have the cap hit %. He was $7.5m cap hit and if I'm remembering correctly, pretty disgruntled at the time. JEEK is $2.25m less cap when the cap is even higher so his cap hit % is insanely good value.

JT Miller is closer, but considering he was a cap casualty for a team up against the cap that HAD to shed cap, that's not really an apples to apples comparison.