Zegras isnt worth the habs 1st

Iginla won’t be there at 16 overall.

If a GM gives up a first for Wi-Fi they should get fire immediately lol

The difference between Zegras and Wi-Fi here 10/12 draft spots.

Funny how people think it’s works eh 😂

The draft pick is iffy. Zegras is an established top-6 forward with back-to-back 60 point plus seasons. Montreal would have to add.

It's not worth the risk for Anaheim to swap Zegras for 6OA. The chance to get a BETTER player is minimal, if we're lucky we get another Zegras, if we're not luck we get a bust.

Here is every Center drafted from 2010-2020 who has or had multiple 60 point seasons on their resume before turning 23 years old:

Tyler Seguin
Nathan Mackinnon
Aleksander Barkov
Leon Draisaitl
Dylan Larkin
Brayden Point
Connor McDavid
Jack Eichel
Matt Barzal
Sebastian Aho
Auston Matthews
Elias Pettersson
Trevor Zegras

Pretty short list eh?

10 year time frame, 7 rounds, let's say 30 teams for ease of calculation. Out of 2,100 players, Zegras is in a group of 13. I'm not going to dig deeper to add wingers, but let's be very charitable and say that multiplies the pool 5 times and say he's 1 of 65 out of 2100 players drafted in that time. That's a 3% chance.

So yeah, when I say the risk of picking a bust WAY outweighs the potential benefit to draft a better player than Zegras at 6, it's not conjecture, it's fact, because over half the names above were gone in their respective drafts before pick #6.

To which I can only add:

2017 draft:
Cody Glass, selected 6th overall
Lias Andersson, selected 7th overall
2018 draft:
Barrett Hayden, selected 5th overall
Filip Zadina, selected 6th overall
And then there's the 2016 draft:
Jesse Puljujarvi, selected 4th overall
Olli Juolevi, selected fifth overall

Yes, the chance of being the Vancouver Canucks and getting Elias Pettersson or Quinn Hughes with the 5 to 7 pick exists. But I'm not putting my egg in that basket, because they're also the ones who got Olli Juolevi.

I’m starting to change my mind for our pick to Ivan Demidov, feels like the guy currently for us

CC: @GiggywithGibby

Picks 5-7 in the 2010-2020 drafts.

NINO NIEDERREITER, career best season 57 points
BRETT CONNOLLY, career best season 46 points
JEFF SKINNER, career best season 82 points at age 30, one season on ELC above 60 points (63 points), other two below 50

RYAN STROME, career best season 59 points
MIKA ZIBANEJAD, career best season 91 points (age 29) best season on elc 46 points
MARK SCHEIFELE, career best season 84 points, one season on elc above 60 points (61, age 23)

2012 was all defensemen, Reily, Lindholm, and Dumba

ELIAS LINDHOLM, career best season 82 points, age 28, best season on ELC 39 points
SEAN MONAHAN, career best season 82 points, likely the closest comparable to Z's career trajectory, back to back 60 pointers in years 2-3.
Darnell Nurse (D)

MICHAEL Dal COLLE, career best season 10 points
JAKE VIRTANEN, career best season 36 points
Hayden Fleury (D)

Noah Hanafin (D)
PAVEL ZACHA, career best 57 points
Ivan Provorov (D)

Olli Juolevi (D)
MATTHEW TKACHUK career best season 109 points, best season on ELC 77 points, first two below 50 points
CLAYTON KELLER Career best season 86 points, best season on ELC 65 points, other two below 50 points

ELIAS PETTERSSON, career best 102 points, first two seasons 66 points, third season limited to 20 games from injury
CODY GLASS, career best 35 points
LIAS ANDERSSON, career best season 6 points

BARRETT HAYTON, career best season 43 points
FILIP ZADINA, career best 24 points
Quinn Hughes (D)

ALEX TURCOTTE, career best 2 points
Moritz Seider (D)
DYLAN COZENS, career best 68 points, last year of ELC, previous season sub 40 points

Jake Sanderson (D)
Jamie Drysdale (D)
ALEXANDER HOLTZ, career best 23 points

Most of the guys on this list, Z blew out of the water in his first two seasons. The two he most closely follows are EP40 and Sean Money hands. Worst case scenario, we have a Phil Kessel or Jeff Skinner, best case scenario we have an American EP40. More likely somewhere in between that.

Undersized, Russian with no NA experience, and I believe he has contract issues to stay in the KHL for another year or two? Don't see Verbeek taking that chance.

Oof, didn’t know about contract issues

This isn't the first time you have posted this list, I guess you don't consider Suzuki to be a center who has multiple 60+ point season and drafted between 2010 and 2020. Even though he was drafted in 2017, plays center and has 2 60+ point season and is on pace for a 70+ point season (higher than any season Zegras has ever had).

Didn’t he specify before 23 years old? Suzuki started his career with 41pts, 41pts, and then 61. He turned 23 before his second 60pt season

Edit: also, he’s older than Z by like a year and a half, so good for him on having a better pace this year.. That said, Z outpaced him in both of the last 2 seasons despite also being a year and a half younger. Not saying these are the same player at all, just a weird pat on the back to be giving Suzuki unsolicited

He doesn't like to read much, just skips to the parts that support his argument and tries to draw the attention back to habs players.

Like yeah, congrats, on his 5th season in the league he's outpacing what Zegras did in his second season, but somehow pointing out that he only had one 60+ point season on his ELC/before age 23 is a slight to Habs fans. We'll check back in two years when Zegras pushes past PPG and compare notes again, and again see, they are not the same caliber player.

List was so kindly populated by a flyers fan too. Spider28 I think.