Wayyy too much going to the flames drop the first and maybe sabres accept lol

Little to much going to CGY there. Maybe drop Ukko-Pekka and add like a 2nd or 3rd

Talk about a major overpay for Jacob Markstrom And he's not waiving his NMC for a Non-Playoff Buffalo team

Nope, like blocking your number nope
Yeah, whatever
yeah, whatever

Calgary wouldn't, or at least shouldn't have any interest in Mittelstadt. He's not an upgrade over any of the Flames current top 9 centers and will be expecting a 7M+ extension this summer.

Also no chance Marky waives to a team with lower cup odds than the Flames

Flames have same cup odds as Sabres

he's an upgrade over literally all of them lol

Take out Debrusk B’s still decline.

Jesus.

I see the incels have been reading Facebook rumor pages again.

Suddenly getting an influx of Okposo/ZG trades to Boston.

🙄

Bruins are paying a 3rd to downgrade from a middle 6 forward to 2 4th line fringer players. On the other hand Adams is selling his kidney for Markstrom

Sure, doesn't change my point

Lol are you trying to prove my point? He's got the same WAR as Kadri who started the season with 1 point in 11 games and was a massive liability until November when Zary got called up. Kadri is a 2nd line center at best. Backlund is an elite shutdown center, and Sharangovich started the first ~20 games on the 4th line. Mittelstadt's inflated GF does not make him a 1C, he is a middle 6 player that is getting very lucky with his production.

I am not saying he doesn't have value but Calgary needs a legitimate 1st line center and he is not that. Mitts is going to ask for 7M+ this summer when he is a 5M caliber player. He is simply just more of the same in Calgary.

Do I think Buffalo should sell him? Absolutely, sell high on him to like Colorado or something. Somewhere that he is a much better fit

Why is the assumption that his GF is inflated? He was literally drafted on the premise of being a great playmaker, those guys all have high on ice GF% on account of they routinely make plays that lead to goals lmao.

Trading him would be asinine. Calgary rejecting this absolutely asinine deal would be even more asinine. Asinine squared or cubed. Did you even catch that the 2024 first, which will probably be like top six is in there too?

The idea that Conroy wouldn't take this while river dancing on the call is wack.

Not even in the ballpark.

His GF is way higher than his xGF. Meaning his is producing at a much higher rate than he is expected to.

Paying him 7M+ to be your 3rd best center would be asinine.

When did I say Calgary declines this deal? I responded to 3 people who stated it was an overpayment, with their own suggestions on how to make it a fair trade, I never disputed them, I am not arguing it is an overpayment. I am saying Calgary should have zero interest in Mittelstadt specifically because he does not get Calgary any closer to contention and will demand a lot of money next year

Yeah it is, but it's not higher because he's lucky. it's higher because good playmakers can create plays that help shooters out perform the amount of goals we would expect from the /average/ player. Its the same reason why snipers goals for are almost always higher than their expected goals. Youd expect an above average shooter to beat the average. The same thing goes with an above average playmaker. This also isn't new, he's been doing this since Jan of last year so if it was all luck that would have crashed by now.

Fair enough my bad, the vernacular of the posts made me think you felt this was a bad trade for Calgary.

I don't think you understand what xGF is. It's not a league average, it's the percent chance of each shot going in while he's on the ice based on the shot quality. So yes it means he's been quite lucky

i promise you i know what it means lmao. What do you think that percentage is based on? It's the historical average of the number of times a goal has gone in from that shot location.

You're implying anyone who out performs their xg is simply luck but a basic tenet of this sport is good players do things most players can't. You think its simply luck that David Pastrnak routintely out performs his XG? or is it because he's a good shooter who can score from locations that most typically don't?

Mittelstadt's on ice GF is higher than his XGF because he's making quality plays to good shooters. its not like he's picking up secondary assists from point shot goals by Connor Clifton. These passes are typically going to players like Tage Thompson. I wonder if he's the kind of player who can score from locations that are typically difficult to score from? Will have to investigate lol.

It's also worth pointing out that his XGF and XGA are both good in isolation. It's not like he's some 42 xg% player with a 60% on ice goals for.

Pastrnak is literally not outperforming his xGF though. In fact his xGF is higher than his GF.

I understand the argument of outperforming you xGF by a bit. For example, Kucherov's GF is a bit higher higher than his xGF. But that's because he makes a lot of really good passes to high end goal scorers in Point and Stamkos. But Mittelstadt's GF is drastically higher than his xGF. Ask yourself, do you think Duchene is a top end talent or just having more of an outlier season?

why are the bruins trying to get worse?