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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching

Feb. 28 at 1:47 p.m.
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What would be suggested as adds if a deal existed around Jordan Kyrou and Brady Tkachuk? Cap is a wash.

Kyrou and 2 firsts? Kyrou, Bolduc, 1st?

Or is there too big a gap for it to happen?
Feb. 28 at 1:51 p.m.
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What would be suggested as adds if a deal existed around Jordan Kyrou and Brady Tkachuk?

Kyrou and 2 firsts? Kyrou, Bolduc, 1st?

Or is there too big a gap for it to happen?


Kyrou and a 1st/2nd should do as you're paying for the extra size...

They're similar point production, contract and age wise
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Feb. 28 at 2:37 p.m.
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What would be suggested as adds if a deal existed around Jordan Kyrou and Brady Tkachuk? Cap is a wash.

Kyrou and 2 firsts? Kyrou, Bolduc, 1st?

Or is there too big a gap for it to happen?


No point in doing that for either side, Tkachuk's not moving since he's Ottawa's captain and Tkachuk and Kyrou are similar value players, just different playstyles
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Feb. 28 at 2:51 p.m.
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No point in doing that for either side, Tkachuk's not moving since he's Ottawa's captain and Tkachuk and Kyrou are similar value players, just different playstyles


Am far from being a Ottawa fan, but still find that a horrible take...

One floats around other one at least gives his all, is captain, plays physical etc etc.

Points production is the only thing they have in common.
Feb. 28 at 3:26 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 28 at 3:57 p.m.
I think Kyrou is going to be an enigma and maybe has a better reputation in a system that isn’t St. Louis, which isn’t his fault at all. St. Louis has had about…1 floaty, roller-hockey-like forward in my lifetime. We don’t do that. I’m not mad at Kyrou tho, he can stay - he scores pretty goals.

There are a few different ways to measure the league where Kyrou shows up as an extreme outlier, on the edges with mcdavid, matthews, Crosby: carrying the puck into the opposing zone and generating 5v5 offense are the two he’s always way out there on. Here’s an example from reddit showing him equivalent to the versatility and potency of mackinnon

As a blues fan I am not convinced that the organization will build to his strength or further adjust systems to exploit his abilities. If there’s a fair deal where we get a player that we will build around, and kyrou goes to a system (most of the East really) that is better for him, that’s probably best for everybody. The central is probably not the division for him, and the team he is on is about the most stubborn of the group.

But the league is changing, and trading him could become a mistake of historic proportions, cause the changes seem to be headed towards his skill set. Plus the blues got him for 8 years right before the cap raising. If you extrapolate out the cap considering global inflation, in 4 years it should go up roughly his aav. (2024/5 4.7, then 5.8, then just under 7, then right about 8.2). The discounting at the end of this deal has massive potential.
Feb. 28 at 3:43 p.m.
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I know Colin Graf, Maxim Tsyplakov, and Jacob Quillan are the main UDFA targets this offseason, but some team needs to sign Josh Lawrence. He's torched just about every level he's played in, and I would guess the only thing stopping him from already being signed is his smaller frame at 5'9. Some team is going to get a real gem there
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Feb. 28 at 5:02 p.m.
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I know Colin Graf, Maxim Tsyplakov, and Jacob Quillan are the main UDFA targets this offseason, but some team needs to sign Josh Lawrence. He's torched just about every level he's played in, and I would guess the only thing stopping him from already being signed is his smaller frame at 5'9. Some team is going to get a real gem there


I was saying this in November, he's was dominant on Halifax and is doing the same overseas now.
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Feb. 28 at 5:22 p.m.
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I was saying this in November, he's was dominant on Halifax and is doing the same overseas now.


I was convinced he'd get a contract last offseason after that dominant year in the Q. No cigar though
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Feb. 28 at 5:23 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
I know Colin Graf, Maxim Tsyplakov, and Jacob Quillan are the main UDFA targets this offseason, but some team needs to sign Josh Lawrence. He's torched just about every level he's played in, and I would guess the only thing stopping him from already being signed is his smaller frame at 5'9. Some team is going to get a real gem there


Josh Lawrence is currently playing in the 2nd tier Swiss league, I'd say if he can perform well in a higher tier league, he'll get a shot, or else, he's likely AHL/ECHL bound
Feb. 28 at 7:57 p.m.
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Canucks and Pettersson have made significant progress on an 8 year deal according to Seravalli. Rip Pettersson ACGM trades Feb 26-Feb 28
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Feb. 28 at 8:00 p.m.
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Canucks and Pettersson have made significant progress on an 8 year deal according to Seravalli. Rip Pettersson ACGM trades Feb 26-Feb 28


Remember though its Serevalli so take it all with pinches of salt

Hes not the best source for it. Remember the whole Gibson stuff
Feb. 28 at 8:05 p.m.
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Remember though its Serevalli so take it all with pinches of salt

Hes not the best source for it. Remember the whole Gibson stuff


That’s true. It would also go against Pettersson wanting to wait until the offseason, but maybe the recent noise around it changed his mind
Feb. 28 at 8:11 p.m.
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Tanev to Dallas

Prospect + 2nd
Feb. 28 at 8:14 p.m.
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Tanev to Dallas

Prospect + 2nd


And another conditional pick per LeBrun. Looking real good for Calgary, curious who the young prospect is. Dallas has got a few guys I really like. Stranges could be a sneaky add, Arcuri would be a slam dunk addition
Feb. 28 at 8:15 p.m.
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And another conditional pick per LeBrun. Looking real good for Calgary, curious who the young prospect is. Dallas has got a few guys I really like. Stranges could be a sneaky add


My question…will there be retention?
Feb. 28 at 8:17 p.m.
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Tanev to Dallas

Prospect + 2nd


Interesting. Honestly had Chycrun going to DAL
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Feb. 28 at 8:17 p.m.
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My question…will there be retention?


If not then someone get CGY allergy meds

They be allergic to it
Feb. 28 at 8:18 p.m.
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Wow, with the addition of Tanev stars are looking pretty scary
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Feb. 28 at 8:18 p.m.
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If not then someone get CGY allergy meds

They be allergic to it


Would have thought at 50% a late first would have been available. Friedman had been saying Calgary wanted players over picks (like Toffoli trade).
Feb. 28 at 8:20 p.m.
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My question…will there be retention?


Not sure, but the prospect is Grushnikov (which I really like for Calgary)
Feb. 28 at 8:20 p.m.
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Would have thought at 50% a late first would have been available. Friedman had been saying Calgary wanted players over picks (like Toffoli trade).


I feel they just gonna take a 2nd + prospect to not have to ret over a 1st. As they took market value on Zadorov vs. ret on him and Tanev in a blockbuster with TOR
Feb. 28 at 8:21 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 28 at 8:29 p.m.
PLB

2nd RD pick, conditional 3rd RD pick & Artem Grushnikov

Dont know if there be ret
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Feb. 28 at 8:30 p.m.
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Flames are ret on Tanev

So why not Lindholm is the question

As they got 3 spots
Feb. 28 at 8:31 p.m.
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PLB

2nd RD pick, conditional 3rd RD pick & Artem Grushnikov

Dont know if there be ret


Saw somewhere that a third party did retention for them
Feb. 28 at 8:32 p.m.
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Saw somewhere that a third party did retention for them


It was the Devils
 
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