Stefen Rosner should maybe consider what Ottawa might want

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Created by: sensonfire

Team: 2023-24 New York Islanders

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 27, 2024

Published: Feb. 27, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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https://twitter.com/stefen_rosner/status/1762502737843908906

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-york-islanders/latest-news/new-york-islanders-ottawa-senators-shane-pinto-josh-norris-jakob-chychrun

Trades

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Stefen Rosner of The Hockey News wants the Islanders to go trade for Shane Pinto, Josh Norris and Jakob Chychrun.

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But he says absolutely nothing about what Ottawa might want.

Hmm ...

o_O

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Here are some things that Ottawa might want from the Islanders:

First, the goalies:

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Sorokin, Ilya

Additional Details:

Ottawa's goaltending is hot garbage and Semyon Varlamov can't be traded because he has a NTC.

So, Ottawa wants Ilya Sorokin.

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Next, the defencemen:

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Dobson, Noah

Additional Details:

Ottawa doesn't have many quality right shot defensemen and Ryan Pulock and Scott Mayfield can't be traded because they have NTCs.

So, Ottawa wants Noah Dobson.

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Now, the forwards:

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Holmström, Simon
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel ($2,500,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Ottawa's bottom six is often made up of AHL fillers and cap space is hard to come by sometimes.

So, Ottawa might consider someone like Simon Holmstrom.

Or a hometown coming for JG Pageau only if the Islanders retain half of Pageau's salary.

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And of course, picks.

Everybody loves picks !

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2024 1st round pick (NYI)
2024 2nd round pick (NYI)
2025 1st round pick (NYI)
2025 2nd round pick (NYI)
2026 1st round pick (NYI)

Additional Details:

If Stefen Rosner wants Pinto, Norris or Chychrun, he should have the guts to make an offer for each of them.

But he won't ...

No guts, no glory!

Buyouts

Rick DiPietro: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Jean-Gabriel Pageau: $2,500,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
19	$83,500,000	$71,849,125	$0	$0	$11,650,875

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Lee, Anders $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW NTC UFA - 3	Barzal, Mathew $9,150,000$9,150,000 C, RW UFA - 8	Palmieri, Kyle $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Martin, Matt $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Horvat, Bo $8,500,000$8,500,000 C NTC UFA - 8	Engvall, Pierre $3,000,000$3,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 7
MacLean, Kyle $800,000$800,000 LW, C RFA - 1	Nelson, Brock $6,000,000$6,000,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Clutterbuck, Cal $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW UFA - 1
		Wahlstrom, Oliver $874,125$874,125 RW RFA - 1
	Cizikas, Casey $2,500,000$2,500,000 C UFA - 4

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Pelech, Adam $5,750,000$5,750,000 LD NTC UFA - 6	Pulock, Ryan $6,150,000$6,150,000 RD NTC UFA - 7
Romanov, Alexander $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD RFA - 2		Varlamov, Semyon $2,750,000$2,750,000 G NTC UFA - 4
Reilly, Mike $1,000,000$1,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Mayfield, Scott $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 7
Aho, Sebastian $825,000$825,000 LD UFA - 1
Bolduc, Samuel $800,000$800,000 LD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Bortuzzo, Robert $950,000$950,000 RD UFA - 1
		Fasching, Hudson $775,000$775,000 RW UFA - 2

Feb. 27 at 1:13 p.m.

Badgm91

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Forwards options sounds pretty cool for us, other ones not so much. Dobson and Sorokin aren't going anywhere unless a franchise level talent is coming back

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Feb. 27 at 1:15 p.m.

csick

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Pinto isn’t going anywhere . Norris might for the right deal. Chychrun is available

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Feb. 27 at 1:21 p.m.

Hudsonfaschingisdad

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Quoting: csick

Pinto isn’t going anywhere . Norris might for the right deal. Chychrun is available

What would a Norris deal look like in your opinion

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Feb. 27 at 1:25 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: Hudsonfaschingisdad

What would a Norris deal look like in your opinion

I only see Ottawa moving Norris for a similar winger who’s not soft or a RD / great goalie.

Probably Goalie and RD are the biggest needs

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Feb. 27 at 1:28 p.m.

Hudsonfaschingisdad

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Quoting: csick

I only see Ottawa moving Norris for a similar winger who’s not soft or a RD / great goalie.

Probably Goalie and RD are the biggest needs

So a Scott mayfield, Jakob skarek and a 3rd round pick get it done?

Feb. 27 at 1:29 p.m.

Rags21

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Ithe problem with the islanders is that they don’t have many good assets worth trading and they don’t have cap

So if they want to upgrade at forward, the 1st and JGP would have to be moved. Not a lot of teams want JGP at full cap

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Feb. 27 at 1:32 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: Hudsonfaschingisdad

So a Scott mayfield, Jakob skarek and a 3rd round pick get it done?

Not Mayfield absolutely not

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Feb. 27 at 1:33 p.m.

Hudsonfaschingisdad

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Quoting: csick

Not Mayfield absolutely not

Just kidding with that proposal

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Feb. 27 at 1:41 p.m.

Db1899

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Pinto , Norris and chychrun don’t move the needle for a player like Dobson

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Feb. 27 at 1:45 p.m.

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palhal

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For sure the Sens (or any team) looks at Sorokin's 8.25m X 8 years starting this summer at age 29 as a bargain.

Feb. 27 at 1:51 p.m.

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Kyle_Okposo_Lover

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Stefen Rosner is a f-----g idiot lol no Islander fan gives a crap at what he says.

Isles will retain on Pageau but I imagine it wouldnt be more than 1.5 mil retention. Pageau for 3.5 compared to 5 is way different

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Feb. 27 at 2:05 p.m.

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NDoody

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Quoting: csick

I only see Ottawa moving Norris for a similar winger who’s not soft or a RD / great goalie.

Probably Goalie and RD are the biggest needs

I'd look into a trade that involves Norris and Dobson very seriously.

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Feb. 27 at 2:33 p.m.

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ordinarymutant

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Quoting: NDoody

I'd look into a trade that involves Norris and Dobson very seriously.

there isn't a trade package that ottawa could put together that would get them noah dobson

Feb. 27 at 3:43 p.m.

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Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: Hudsonfaschingisdad

So a Scott mayfield, Jakob skarek and a 3rd round pick get it done?

An RHD who doesn't stink

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Feb. 27 at 4:07 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: Db1899

Pinto , Norris and chychrun don’t move the needle for a player like Dobson

I don’t think Dobson is what we need anyways

Feb. 27 at 4:08 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: ordinarymutant

there isn't a trade package that ottawa could put together that would get them noah dobson

Stutzle and possibly Tkachuk are more valuable . Also I wouldn’t move Sanderson for Dobson either

Feb. 27 at 8:42 p.m.

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Db1899

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Quoting: csick

I don’t think Dobson is what we need anyways

Every team needs a RD like Dobson

Feb. 27 at 8:43 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: Db1899

Every team needs a RD like Dobson

Chabot/Chychrun-Dobson might be elite at letting the other team score

Feb. 27 at 8:48 p.m.

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Db1899

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Quoting: csick

Chabot/Chychrun-Dobson might be elite at letting the other team score

Dobson doesn’t have to play much defense because he tilts the ice offensively and his defense isn’t an issue.

Feb. 27 at 8:48 p.m.

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

An RHD who doesn't stink

i have it on good authority that Scott Mayfield showers very regularly and is a frequent user of gel anti-perspirants

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