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Created by: Kravtsov_Stan
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 6, 2024
Published: Mar. 6, 2024
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Tarasenko’s worth a first a 2 2nds right?
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  1. 2024 4th round pick (FLA)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (FLA)
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4th becomes 3rd if FLA wins the cup
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2024
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2025
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22$83,500,000$78,767,380$0$1,850,000$4,732,620
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
G
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 3

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Mar. 6 at 12:15 p.m.
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The NTC wins again.
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Mar. 6 at 12:17 p.m.
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seems dorion changed him name to staios....this team is doomed if they continue having morons for GMs...
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Mar. 6 at 12:18 p.m.
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Lmaoooooo all of Ottawa fans saying he would go for minimum a 1st

😂😂😂
Mar. 6 at 12:19 p.m.
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Fate sealed the moment they caved on NTC
Mar. 6 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Rags21
Lmaoooooo all of Ottawa fans saying he would go for minimum a 1st

😂😂😂


He would go for a 1st.... if he doesnt force his way to one team. This is the DeBrincat debacle all over again, in which Sens fans talk about the players general value, and other fans dont understand that WE KNOW IF HE FORCES HIS WAY TO ONE TEAM IT TANKS HIS VALUE.
Mar. 6 at 12:21 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
seems dorion changed him name to staios....this team is doomed if they continue having morons for GMs...


or maybe they got the best return they could from the team that Tarasenko hand-picked with his NTC (this was always what was going to happen)
Mar. 6 at 12:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Borocop
or maybe they got the best return they could from the team that Tarasenko hand-picked with his NTC (this was always what was going to happen)


then i would have told senko to **** himself and not trade him. and benched his ass and banned him frpom the arena for the remainder of the season
Mar. 6 at 12:21 p.m.
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He would go for a 1st.... if he doesnt force his way to one team. This is the DeBrincat debacle all over again, in which Sens fans talk about the players general value, and other fans dont understand that WE KNOW IF HE FORCES HIS WAY TO ONE TEAM IT TANKS HIS VALUE.


I literally told Senator fans all season long he would use his NTC to lower the value…..they didn’t listen
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Mar. 6 at 12:23 p.m.
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This is what happens when the player has all the leverage.
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Mar. 6 at 12:23 p.m.
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then i would have told senko to **** himself and not trade him. and benched his ass and banned him frpom the arena for the remainder of the season


and what would that have gotten the sens aside from a bad repuation around the league? He rightfully negotiated a full NTC and used it
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Mar. 6 at 12:29 p.m.
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I think it’s more as fans, we don’t really know how many teams are interested, or in Tarasenkos case, even available to acquire him. If he’s fine with 10+ teams to go to, Sens can probably get a 2nd and prospect (which is what I mostly saw in mock trades) but if it’s 1/2 teams only, it’s either sell for pennies on the dollar or keep him. Better to get something
Mar. 6 at 12:30 p.m.
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And this, folks, is why you don't slap a NTC on a 1-year trade-bait contract.
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Mar. 6 at 12:36 p.m.
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was told he was worth a first tears of joy
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Mar. 6 at 12:37 p.m.
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This is why you simply ignore all the experts who use 'we' & think they are the actual GM, lol.

'They'd never do that!' 'OTT declines!'

Then, when you go back on old comments or rosters to say I told you so, they move the target: well, we all knew he had a NTC, duh.

Very rarely do they admit they were totally wrong & also give you props for creative trade ideas. Be assured, they'll double down on ego & repeat the same arrogance with the next trade.
Mar. 6 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: earl08
This is why you simply ignore all the experts who use 'we' & think they are the actual GM, lol.

'They'd never do that!' 'OTT declines!'

Then, when you go back on old comments or rosters to say I told you so, they move the target: well, we all knew he had a NTC, duh.

Very rarely do they admit they were totally wrong & also give you props for creative trade ideas. Be assured, they'll double down on ego & repeat the same arrogance with the next trade.


My favorite was the Sens fan who spammed '5 acceptable returns for Tarasenko from XYZ team' AGMs.
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Mar. 6 at 12:58 p.m.
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At what point do you simply say NO to something? Retaining half the salary AND getting “nothing” in return… I can’t say I would have accepted that.
Mar. 6 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: PLDGEY
He would go for a 1st.... if he doesnt force his way to one team. This is the DeBrincat debacle all over again, in which Sens fans talk about the players general value, and other fans dont understand that WE KNOW IF HE FORCES HIS WAY TO ONE TEAM IT TANKS HIS VALUE.


Quoting: Borocop
or maybe they got the best return they could from the team that Tarasenko hand-picked with his NTC (this was always what was going to happen)


You both must have forgotten the report that said Tarasenko would have waived for any contender, right? https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/02/vladimir-tarasenko-willing-to-waive-no-trade-clause.html
Mar. 6 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
You both must have forgotten the report that said Tarasenko would have waived for any contender, right? https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/02/vladimir-tarasenko-willing-to-waive-no-trade-clause.html


did you even read the article lol? nowhere in that article (blog post) does it say he would waive for *any* contender, it just says he would waive his NTC to go to a contender, which he did
Mar. 6 at 1:16 p.m.
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Quoting: PLDGEY
He would go for a 1st.... if he doesnt force his way to one team. This is the DeBrincat debacle all over again, in which Sens fans talk about the players general value, and other fans dont understand that WE KNOW IF HE FORCES HIS WAY TO ONE TEAM IT TANKS HIS VALUE.


Exactly giving a rental an NTC might be the stupidest thing you can do
Mar. 6 at 1:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Borocop
or maybe they got the best return they could from the team that Tarasenko hand-picked with his NTC (this was always what was going to happen)


Its almost like signing a rental to an NTC is an awful idea
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Mar. 6 at 1:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Borocop
did you even read the article lol? nowhere in that article (blog post) does it say he would waive for *any* contender, it just says he would waive his NTC to go to a contender, which he did


Yeah, bc he can only get traded from Ottawa once this TDL... A contender meant 1 of the many possible team Senko deems a contender... It's like telling Ottawa that he won't waive to the CHI's PIT's NYI's of the league

Teams like Vegas, Carolina, NYR, EDM were all linked to him... Meaning each team must have done their due diligence and know he would waive to them
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Mar. 6 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Yeah, bc he can only get traded from Ottawa once this TDL... A contender meant 1 of the many possible team Senko deems a contender...

Teams like Vegas, Carolina, NYR, EDM were all linked to him... Meaning each team must have done their due diligence and know he would waive to them


Thats not what that means but that's okay im past it
Mar. 6 at 1:19 p.m.
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Its almost like signing a rental to an NTC is an awful idea


yeah i mean in retrospect absolutely, I think the hope was we would be a lot higher in the standings though
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Mar. 6 at 1:20 p.m.
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Thats not what that means but that's okay im past it


Then you give your def. about what it means...
Mar. 6 at 1:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Then you give your def. about what it means...


He still has to waive his NTC to go to that team. being linked means a team is interested and that there is a prospective fit, not that its open season on a trade offer. Vlad was always (and rightfully so) going to pick 1, maybe 2 teams he would accept a trade to as was his contractual right. He was doing his own due diligence on where he would have liked to go when he hired a new agent mid-season. Pretty simply he chose Florida when they emerged as suitors
 
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