Fair value for Tuch as an unbiased sabres fan

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Created by: dons_weeney

Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 6, 2024

Published: Mar. 6, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

this a joke

Trades

Buried

Tyson Jost: $850,000 ($2,000,000)
Riley Stillman: $200,000 ($1,350,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$83,500,000	$80,186,070	$0	$4,295,000	$3,313,930

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Benson, Zach $950,000$950,000 ($650,000$650K) LW RFA - 3	Thompson, Tage $7,142,857$7,142,857 C UFA - 7	DeBrusk, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Peterka, John-Jason $855,833$855,833 ($32,500$32K) LW, RW RFA - 2	Cozens, Dylan $7,100,000$7,100,000 C, LW UFA - 7	Olofsson, Victor $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 4	Krebs, Peyton $863,333$863,333 ($412,500$412K) C, LW RFA - 1	Okposo, Kyle $2,500,000$2,500,000 ($500,000$500K) RW UFA - 1
Greenway, Jordan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Girgensons, Zemgus $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Rousek, Lukas $775,000$775,000 RW RFA - 2
Robinson, Eric $1,600,000$1,600,000 LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dahlin, Rasmus $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Clifton, Connor $3,333,333$3,333,333 RD UFA - 3	Comrie, Eric $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 1
Byram, Bowen $3,850,000$3,850,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Johnson, Erik $3,250,000$3,250,000 RD UFA - 1	Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka $837,500$837,500 G RFA - 1
Bryson, Jacob $1,850,000$1,850,000 LD/RD RFA - 1	Jokiharju, Henri $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD RFA - 1
Johnson, Ryan $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 2
Grzelcyk, Matt $3,687,500$3,687,500 LD UFA - 1
Power, Owen $916,667$916,667 ($1,850,000$2M) LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Samuelsson, Mattias $4,285,714$4,285,714 LD UFA - 7
	Quinn, Jack $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2

Mar. 6 at 5:34 p.m.

Celtics21

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If Mittlesfast secured Bowen, this isn’t even close

Mar. 6 at 5:36 p.m.

Bcarlo25

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JFK retired like three years ago dude.

Mar. 6 at 5:36 p.m.

AntiAnalytics

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Delete this

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Mar. 6 at 5:37 p.m.

AntiAnalytics

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Quoting: Celtics21

If Mittlesfast secured Bowen, this isn’t even close

1- that’s not how trades work
2- Tuch is UNTOUCHABLE

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Mar. 6 at 5:37 p.m.

Czu8iks

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Bunch of UFA`s and distant late 2nd are not getting you Tuch.

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Mar. 6 at 5:38 p.m.

Celtics21

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Quoting: AntiAnalytics

1- that’s not how trades work
2- Tuch is UNTOUCHABLE

Trades don’t use comparables? I’m saying that Tuch is too good to have this discussion

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Mar. 6 at 5:38 p.m.

dons_weeney

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Quoting: AntiAnalytics

1- that’s not how trades work
2- Tuch is UNTOUCHABLE

Untuchable*

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Mar. 6 at 5:39 p.m.

AntiAnalytics

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Quoting: dons_weeney

Untuchable*

Lol, touché

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Mar. 6 at 5:41 p.m.

xjoeyc23x

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No from Boston. JFK is untouchable.

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Mar. 6 at 5:42 p.m.

#10

Lsendel3

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Quoting: xjoeyc23x

No from Boston. JFK is untouchable.

All name team for sure

Mar. 6 at 5:44 p.m.

#11

Nhl_oilers

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Agreed. This is very fair! Well done.

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Mar. 6 at 5:44 p.m.

#12

Onlyfairtrades1

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Overpay by Boston.

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Mar. 6 at 5:45 p.m.

#13

jimothy802

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Seems quite underwhelming for the Sabers. Not even one 1st or 1st level prospect

Mar. 6 at 5:45 p.m.

#14

Caerii

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As an unbiased neutral fan, this is light

Maybe I missed the sarcasm here

Mar. 6 at 5:46 p.m.

#15

dons_weeney

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Quoting: jimothy802

Seems quite underwhelming for the Sabers. Not even one 1st or 1st level prospect

Debrusk is a former 1st, and Forsbacka Karlsson is in a similar value bracket.

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Mar. 6 at 5:48 p.m.

#16

Onlyfairtrades1

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Quoting: dons_weeney

Debrusk is a former 1st, and Forsbacka Karlsson is in a similar value bracket.

According to some Buffalo fans that responded here, Middelstadt was off limits too.

Mar. 6 at 5:49 p.m.

#17

jimothy802

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Quoting: dons_weeney

Debrusk is a former 1st, and Forsbacka Karlsson is in a similar value bracket.

DeBrusk walks in a couple of months and Karlsson hasn't played since 2021 lol

Mar. 6 at 5:58 p.m.

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Czu8iks

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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1

According to some Buffalo fans that responded here, Middelstadt was off limits too.

Mittelstadt was either extended or traded by Friday. We dont know the number, but can assume it had to be in 7x7m range and Adams went otherway.

Tuch got term on contract, defense is addressed, roster spot in top 9 is also freed up

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Mar. 6 at 6:06 p.m.

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BUFF742

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Edited Mar. 6 at 6:13 p.m.

Quoting: dons_weeney

Untuchable*

Weeny. You're not a Sabres fan but definitely a Weeney . Maybe you got roasted but you can't force us to trade so who gives a flying weiner what you think is fair and a trade should theoretically benefit both. We have 12 top six prospects,low on right d right wingers and grit push back toughness,6 left d now and loads of draft picks to squander. Please explain how this is anything good or fair for Buffalo?
But our management sitting in office sniffing glue so hey. They might go for it

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