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Created by: Random_internet_guy_1967
Team: 2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 5, 2024
Published: May 12, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
The scenario in this case is that Minten isn't ready yet. If he was then there's an easy case to say he's the perfect fit alongside Knies and a scoring right wing, I could even see a kid line of Knies-Minten-Robo if Nylander is pushed up to save even more money.
Signs are pointing in the direction that Minten might need a season on the Marlies before stepping into a spot, and in that case, the team needs to address 3 concerns: adding a new RW to the top 6, adding a 3C, and overhauling the D-core, all while moving off Marner in the process. In this specific case, Dvorak makes sense as a 1 year solution to stall for Minten and to be a 2 way forechecking/faceoff winning center who hands the puck to Nylander to score, and Kane makes sense to be a high volume scoring winger who does it all on offence, and hopefully the duo of Tavares and McMann can defensively pull the weight.

The Marner deal kills a few birds with one stone:
-Calgary leaves with Weeger's deal off the books and with 3 prospects (4 if you count Bean), a first, and a defense who'll fetch them a pick or two at deadline, teeing them up for a solid rebuild.
-Columbus walks away with a new 26 year old star 2 way/playmaking winger without losing a single player who was a lock to make the roster, with the only risk being whether Marner extends, a problem that would be solved with a sign and trade.
-Finally the Leafs come out of this with 2 brand new top 4 defense with term, overhauling the defense in the process.

Grebyonkin, Timmins, and Hildeby are the go to extra guy at each position, but I kept Hildeby and Grebyonkin down for the purpose of staying under the roster limit and cap ceiling.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,450,000
2$2,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,000,000
4$6,500,000
4$3,200,000
2$2,750,000
1$875,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Bean, Jake [RFA Rights]
  2. Gudbranson, Erik
  3. Johnson, Kent [RFA Rights]
  4. Pinelli, Luca
  5. 2026 1st round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
All this stuff gets flipped to a team who may have some use for it
CBJ
  1. Marner, Mitchell
Additional Details:
If you're Columbus, you can look at the trade like this
The Jackets had:
-the 7th worst PK% in the league
-the 2nd worst PP% in the league
-the 2nd most goals against in the league
-the 9th least goals for in the league
All things Marner immediately improves, the only issue is the question of if he'd resign, because if he did then Columbus would do this in a heartbeat.
Columbus only loses a pick that can have protections and is destined to be lower after the deal, a prospect who likely won't crack this young lineup, a prospect who at his best is a Marner clone without the defense, 3 years at $4 mil of 32 yr old Gudbranson, and a defense prospect who's the 8th guy on this team.
2.
TOR
  1. Andersson, Rasmus
  2. Weegar, MacKenzie
Additional Details:
Toronto bolsters their D core with the money Marner was making, picking up two guys who aren't expiring soon.
CGY
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. Gudbranson, Erik
  3. Johnson, Kent
  4. Pinelli, Luca
  5. Voit, Ty
  6. 2026 1st round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
If you're a Calgary fan wondering why you're trading two top 4 defense for something you deem to be too low value, consider this
-Calgary did not make the playoffs
-Calgary has no young talent with a high enough ceiling to build around
-Calgary's average team age is 28.6 yrs old
-Most of Calgary's best players are 30+ yrs old and on multi-year deals
-Calgary is entering a phase of tanking

Sure, there's a 1% chance I'm wrong about all of this, but the other 99% screams you have very little leverage and need to start clearing long term deals to make space for cap dumps and a new era in Flames history.

This starts with picking up two center prospects, one of which is an ex-first rounder who's overflowing with talent, a winger who led his OHL team in points back to back years, a 25 year old left shot D and a reunion with vet Gudbranson who can be moved next season for picks.
3.
TOR
  1. Dvorak, Christian ($1,200,000 retained)
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (MTL)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
Dvorak would be an immediate replacement for Marner on the PK and a right shot center in the case that Minten is not ready by next season. Picks make up for the gap in value without Montreal risking much
MTL
    Replacing a 28 year old who probably is already the best he'll get for a 22 yr old winger who is an incredible finisher and whose dawg is only rivaled by Gallagher. Not to mention they also get a 25 yr old long term replacement for Savard for the cost of a few relatively inconsequential picks and an easily replaceable center
    4.
    TOR
    MTL
    1. Liljegren, Timothy [RFA Rights]
    2. Robertson, Nicholas [RFA Rights]
    Additional Details:
    I aint retyping alla that
    5.
    TOR
    MIN
    1. Järnkrok, Calle
    Additional Details:
    whether you choose to bury him in the AHL or trade him for like a 4th doesn't matter
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2024
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    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the NSH
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the OTT
    2025
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    2026
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$87,700,000$86,666,667$0$0$1,033,333
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Bertuzzi, Tyler
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Matthews, Auston
    $13,250,000$13,250,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Domi, Max
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    C, RW
    UFA
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    McMann, Bobby
    $1,350,000$1,350,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Kane, Patrick
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    RW
    UFA
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Waivers ExemptKnies, Matthew
    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    Dvorak, Christian
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Nylander, William
    $11,500,000$11,500,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Holmberg, Pontus
    $800,000$800,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Kämpf, David
    $2,400,000$2,400,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Reaves, Ryan
    $1,350,000$1,350,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Rielly, Morgan
    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    Weegar, MacKenzie
    $6,250,000$6,250,000
    LD/RD
    NTC
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Woll, Joseph
    $766,667$766,667
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Benoit, Simon
    $1,350,000$1,350,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    McCabe, Jake
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Jones, Martin
    $875,000$875,000
    G
    UFA
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Edmundson, Joel
    $3,200,000$3,200,000
    LD/RD
    UFA
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    Andersson, Rasmus
    $4,550,000$4,550,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Timmins, Conor
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    RD
    RFA - 1

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    May 12 at 3:00 p.m.
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    GuyGuyGuy
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    Habs pass. Probably fair value but we have no need for a small injury prone player and a bottom pairing RD
    May 12 at 3:18 p.m.
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    Shaun80
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    I have no problems moving on from Andersson and Weegar, but Andersson alone could probably get a Johnson caliber player and a 1st. Other then that there's nothing of interest there.
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    May 12 at 3:19 p.m.
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    MyTeamsSuck
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    Flames trade might be the worst trade I’ve seen on the site so far. Weegar or Andersson would bring close to that on their own. Plus, Weegar isn’t being traded, he’s got term which is something not many players on the team have.
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    May 12 at 3:30 p.m.
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    Bast
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    The fact that you think the Flames have no leverage is ridiculous.

    ARI didn't have any leverage with Chychrun after he asked for a trade. They got the 11th overall + 2 x 2nds as a result. One of which was a conditional 1st. That's Andersson's comparable.

    Weegar just finished a career year and a 20G campaign. He is on a value contract for the next 7 years. He also managed to prop up all his D partners. Including guys like Miromanov, or Zadorov at the start of the year. I guess no one is going to offer anything for that bum.

    Leave Johnson + 2 x 1sts + 2nd.
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    May 12 at 3:37 p.m.
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    CBJ decline, but I would imagine they would be open to negotiating a bit if Marner is willing to waive that NMC and resign long-term next offseason.
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    May 12 at 4:00 p.m.
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    Lmao you think Marner and Voit are worth Weegar and Andersson?
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    May 12 at 5:18 p.m.
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    The problem with Marner-to-Columbus is primarily that we already have two top-line high value large contract wingers and cannot afford a 3rd. That basically translates to y'all having to take back Laine as part of the value you'd be getting back. Gudbranson isn't acceptable as a cap offset because we actually make regular use of him and he's been surprisingly effective as a bottom-pairing guy and mentor.
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    May 12 at 6:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: Viqsi
    The problem with Marner-to-Columbus is primarily that we already have two top-line high value large contract wingers and cannot afford a 3rd. That basically translates to y'all having to take back Laine as part of the value you'd be getting back. Gudbranson isn't acceptable as a cap offset because we actually make regular use of him and he's been surprisingly effective as a bottom-pairing guy and mentor.


    Gudbranson is a good guy to have around. He's missed in Calgary!
    May 12 at 7:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: Viqsi
    The problem with Marner-to-Columbus is primarily that we already have two top-line high value large contract wingers and cannot afford a 3rd. That basically translates to y'all having to take back Laine as part of the value you'd be getting back. Gudbranson isn't acceptable as a cap offset because we actually make regular use of him and he's been surprisingly effective as a bottom-pairing guy and mentor.



    Absolutely!

    We kinda need guddy more than marner at this point which is stupid lol.
    Guddy adds that vet presence and stability to a young back end. Marner is redundant without moving out a top line winger.

    If we can move laine out in a marner trade without giving up a Russian, jiricek, 4oa, werenski or Fantilli (last four are non negotiable) then I say make an attempt.
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    May 13 at 1:52 a.m.
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    Edited May 13 at 1:57 a.m.
    Quoting: Friendly_Cannon
    Absolutely!

    We kinda need guddy more than marner at this point which is stupid lol.
    Guddy adds that vet presence and stability to a young back end. Marner is redundant without moving out a top line winger.

    If we can move laine out in a marner trade without giving up a Russian, jiricek, 4oa, werenski or Fantilli (last four are non negotiable) then I say make an attempt.


    What if Toronto asks for Jenner, Sillinger or Werenski?

    Edit: I didn't realize Sillinger was born in Columbus until just now. That makes it even more unlikely they'd trade him. The GM would never survive the backlash if he traded Sillinger away and he becomes a star for another team.
    May 13 at 6:46 a.m.
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    Quoting: MoxNix
    What if Toronto asks for Jenner, Sillinger or Werenski?

    Edit: I didn't realize Sillinger was born in Columbus until just now. That makes it even more unlikely they'd trade him. The GM would never survive the backlash if he traded Sillinger away and he becomes a star for another team.


    Jenner could work If our owner gets out of his head about it. Werenski is a no go. And silly as you said could be a hard sell but possible.
     
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